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I am not of Assyrian/Chaldean/Aramean/Syrian/... ancestry. Rather I am a
descendant of the Thor-worshipping Hell's Angels of Europe. We had the same
reputation in the Middle Ages which the Assyrians had in the ancient world
to the surrounding countries. This merely to say that I am outside the
general discussion.
In mourning the departure of your ancestors from the worship of Ashur, have
you considered that that very departure aided in centuries of survival under
the Moslems? The Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians are considered people
of the book, and thus may continue in their traditions. On the other hand,
'pagans' are to be converted by whatever means available. The destruction
of Lurian culture is one recent example. I am not saying by this that
conversion to Christianity necessarily preserves the original culture. A
comparison of the Epic of Beowulf with the Nibelungenlied or the Elder Eddas
shows definite shift of understanding, with a loss of earlier significances.
It was not Assyria's religious shift which permitted the Moslem conquest.
As far as I can tell, most of the descendants of the old Babylonians now
think of themselves as Arabs, and have lost all of their cultural
continuity.
Where now are the worshippers of Ba'al? Where those who serve Bel Marduk?
Where now is Shamballa (believed to be a Buddhist kingdom in what is now
Afghanistan)? The Hindus retained their religion and power because they had
sufficient military might to repulse the Arab invaders. Even the two
military powers at the time of the original invasion were unable to
completely stop it. Persia was completely overcome, and the Persian
followers of Zoroaster are now a small minority in their homeland.
You may find Euro-American 'pagans', you may even find American jewish
'pagans'. You will not find Arab 'pagans' except perhaps among the most
assimilated in America. Nor will you find much trace of the Himyarite
culture, nor any modern version of their ancient faith.
In your ancestral homeland, the only non-Jewish, non-Christian groups able
to continue were the Mandaeans and the Yezidis.
Also, I would recommend a study of Jewish history. You refer in one of your
posts to a Jewish perspective you admire. My readings indicate that the
'Magnification of the Name' characteristic of Jewish communities in Europe
during the Middle Ages is closer to the perspective of those Assyrian,
Syrian, and Chaldean Christians who would rather die than convert. It is
through this perspective that the Jewish culture has survived two thousand
years without a homeland.
Still, I commend and honor your heart. I read your post about the Black
Moslem kid. It takes guts to care so deeply.
Please do not respond to this. You may post it, if you will, or ignore it.
Le'olam khayi
Push b'shena
Bob Griffin
Bob Griffin
DataBase Administrator
Ameriflight
818.980.5005 x143
Dear sir,
I am not of Assyrian/Chaldean/Aramean/Syrian/... ancestry. Rather I am a descendant of the Thor-worshipping Hell's Angels of Europe. We had the same reputation in the Middle Ages which the Assyrians had in the ancient world to the surrounding countries. This merely to say that I am outside the general discussion.
In mourning the departure of your ancestors from the worship of Ashur, have you considered that that very departure aided in centuries of survival under the Moslems? The Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians are considered people of the book, and thus may continue in their traditions. On the other hand, 'pagans' are to be converted by whatever means available. The destruction of Lurian culture is one recent example. I am not saying by this that conversion to Christianity necessarily preserves the original culture. A comparison of the Epic of Beowulf with the Nibelungenlied or the Elder Eddas shows definite shift of understanding, with a loss of earlier significances.
It was not Assyria's religious shift which permitted the Moslem conquest. As far as I can tell, most of the descendants of the old Babylonians now think of themselves as Arabs, and have lost all of their cultural continuity.
Where now are the worshippers of Ba'al? Where those who serve Bel Marduk? Where now is Shamballa (believed to be a Buddhist kingdom in what is now Afghanistan)? The Hindus retained their religion and power because they had sufficient military might to repulse the Arab invaders. Even the two military powers at the time of the original invasion were unable to completely stop it. Persia was completely overcome, and the Persian followers of Zoroaster are now a small minority in their homeland.
You may find Euro-American 'pagans', you may even find American jewish 'pagans'. You will not find Arab 'pagans' except perhaps among the most assimilated in America. Nor will you find much trace of the Himyarite culture, nor any modern version of their ancient faith.
In your ancestral homeland, the only non-Jewish, non-Christian groups able to continue were the Mandaeans and the Yezidis.
Also, I would recommend a study of Jewish history. You refer in one of your posts to a Jewish perspective you admire. My readings indicate that the 'Magnification of the Name' characteristic of Jewish communities in Europe during the Middle Ages is closer to the perspective of those Assyrian, Syrian, and Chaldean Christians who would rather die than convert. It is through this perspective that the Jewish culture has survived two thousand years without a homeland.
Still, I commend and honor your heart. I read your post about the Black Moslem kid. It takes guts to care so deeply.
Please do not respond to this. You may post it, if you will, or ignore it.
Le'olam khayi
Push b'shena
Bob Griffin
Bob Griffin
DataBase Administrator
Ameriflight
818.980.5005 x143
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