Posted by pancho (148.244.221.153) on January 24, 2002 at 12:17:42:
In Reply to: well, it seems to be what's on your public agenda when you die or how much you suffer that makes you a martyr posted by Alli on January 23, 2002 at 14:30:07:
Let me split your hairs...to be a martyr involves first and foremost CHOICE. You have to be presented with an alternative, a way out. A gun is held to your head and you are told to renounce X...that if you don't, you will be shot. If you refuse to renounce X and get killed you are a damn fool and a martyr. If someone just comes up behind you and shoots you dead, without presenting you with any way out and even if he kills you because of your religion...you are a murder victim, not a martyr.
I tried in vain to teach those nitwits at aina this simple definition...until Nanny Hajjar came back with the perfect Christian rejoinder...he said they had their own dictionary. That is such a grand piece of crap that you have to stand back in amazement and contemplate it in all its magnificence...no WONDER!!!