Posted by sankho (61.9.128.142) on November 12, 2001 at 18:28:47:
Looks like we hit a raw nerve....but as usual the Assyrian who wrote this is hiding behind the comfort of anonymity.....
Dear {Nakosha}
Letters to political parties?! talks with asylum seekers?! Cheap shots at the Government?! ... talk about slective journalism!!! I have plenty to say for you, about you , to you. But all i'll say is I'm so disappointed in you! My reasons are many but insignificant! I haven't got more then that i want to say to you.
Now for your superficial, hypecretical and "fake" society!!! Newsletter after Newsletter, there's this rhetorical cry for unity, a better future for Assyrians, ... "need to politically and financially" support our fellow assyrians! To all those who are reading this in disbelief and disgust i have one question - what have you done since you read those patriotic letters?!... a little closer to nothing then anything huh? So save your sad-sob stories full of excuses and explanations and PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!!
Let me first set the scene for you. Let's say for argument sake we have 2000
Assyrians in Melbourne, consisiting of Chaldeans, Syrians, and Assyrians - who are much "kinder", more understanding and willing then the government.
PEOPLE $/per week Total p/a
2000 $2/50 $200,000
2000 $5/50 $500,000
2000 $10/50 $1,000,000
With this money you can establish some sort of fund to help people migrate
LEGALLY to Australia, this money can be used for families who want to bring their family to Australia. Perhaps charge a 10% flat interest rate (e.g $50,000 borrowed must be returned with in "x" amount of time with a total of $5,000 interest rate over the duration- the interest may be returned by the actual person who was helped). And as we grow more and more perhaps so will the fund.
But who will be the Fund official- which "sita"? which church? Which comittee? Who's family will be hepled first? who's deciding? Your the one who wants to help - politically and economically ... let your people decide.
If this sort of fund is established, with about 2000 seperate identity donations, by this time next year I will publicly eat my words ... otherwise stop your pathetic empty notions of patrionism. You feel nothing more for those refugees then the government, at least they're not making empty promises and vicious remarks!
Dear Ms "Ry"
Letters to political parties?
>>Yes.
talks with asylum
seekers?!
>>Yes
Cheap shots at
the Government?
>>Not really...
talk about slective journalism!!!
>>OK........
yes & no-- yes, in that we canvassed issues pertaining to a highly selective group - Assyrian refugees, who constitute a tiny minority of all refugees coming to this country; and no in that we included "letters" from "political parties" which you so seem to despise [why, it's not very clear to me]. We sought alternate views, asked what others felt, and wrote to the Prime Minister. Biased? We did everything we possibly could to NOT appear biased - but at the end of the day you have to print what you're left with. THE FACT IS YOUNG ASSYRIANS HAVE BEEN UNLAWFULLY DETAINED FOR YEARS...we just can't escape that fact.
But all i'll say is I'm so disappointed in you!
>>You can make some people happy some of the time but not everyone all of ....you get the rest.
My reasons are many but insignificant!
>>I agree wholeheartedly....you said it!!
I haven't got more then that i want to say to you.
>>I don't get it.
Now for your superficial, hypecretical [sic] and "fake"
society!!! Newsletter after Newsletter, there's this rhetorical cry for unity, a better future for Assyrians, ... "need to politically and financially" support our fellow assyrians!
>>My dear, I've counted more rhetorical statements and questions in your one email than every edition of Nakosha put together.
To all those who are reading this in disbelief and disgust i have one question - what have you done since you read those patriotic letters?!... a little closer to nothing then anything huh?
>>All these rhetorical questions!!
So save your sad-sob stories full of excuses and explanations and
PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE
YOUR MOUTH IS!!
>> I'm not sure if you're reffering to Nakosha or to us as individuals. Nakosha's primary role is NOT to raise funds, but to report. If you are refering to us as individuals, frankly it is none of your business what we do with our money..... For all you know, I may be donating half of my income to charitable Assyrian causes.
Let me first set the scene for you. Let's say for argument [sic] sake we have 2000 Assyrians in Melbourne, consisiting of Chaldeans,Syrians [sic], and Assyrians - who are much "kinder", more understanding and willing then [sic] the government.
PEOPLE $/per week
Total p/a
2000 $2/50
$200,000
2000 $5/50
$500,000
2000 $10/50
$1,000,000
With this money you can establish some sort of fund
to help people migrate LEGALLY to Australia, this money can be used for families who want to bring
their family to Australia. Perhaps charge a 10% flat interest rate (e.g $50,000 borrowed must be returned with in "x" amount of time with a total of $5,000 interest rate over the duration- the interest may be returned by the actual person who was helped). And as we grow more and more perhaps so will the fund.
>>Now we get to the crux of the matter.... and the most abhorrent part of your argument. You MUST be a bean-counter... nothing else could explain the naive simplicity with which you write your "grand plan". The whole point is THAT THIS IS NOT A FINANCIAL ISSUE-- WHEN WILL YOU ACCOUNTANTS UNDERSTAND? You reduce everything to a black and white with silly little tables... I REPEAT THE POINT IS NOT ONE OF ECONOMICS. As a tax paying, patriotic Australian, I detest the notion of setting up a fund to "bring people here LEGALLY". Australia is part of America's "policing" of the Middle East which is driving out many innocent Assyrians who have nothing to do with any regime, not in the Mid East nor in the West. I have every right to DEMAND that Australia let these people live here and make a better life for themselves than rot in Australian detention centres. I will NOT contribute ONE CENT to ANY fund that brings Assyrians here....and you dare to call Nakosha disgusting? You accountants disgust ME.
But who will be the Fund official- which "sita"?
which church? Which comittee? Who's family will be hepled first? who's deciding? Your the one who wants to help - politically and economically ...let your people decide.
>>YOU are the one who came up with the infantile scheme...YOU should respond to your own dumb rhetoric.
If this sort of fund is established, with about 2000 seperate identity donations, by this time next year I will publicly eat my words ...
>>If this sort of fund is established I will hang my head in shame...given that it WON'T be established [thank God], I look forward to seeing you eat your words...in public.But, I dare say, we will never hear from you again.
otherwise stop your pathetic empty notions of patrionism. You feel nothing more for those refugees then [sic] the government, at least they're not making empty promises and vicious remarks!
>>Vicious remarks....I don't recall any from OUR side, but from the Government's I do.... mum's throwing their children overboard--an "absolute fact".....what more can I say?
>>The only way around this mess is to send funds to the Mid East to KEEP OUR PEOPLE THERE, NOT BRING THEM HERE.
Sankho Daniel