Posted by XXXX BeitMalo from accel15.nyc.untd.com (64.136.27.25) on Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 11:25PM :
In Reply to: Bad Tiglath - Good David ... posted by Andreas from dtm2-t9-1.mcbone.net (62.104.210.98) on Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 1:18PM :
I, for one did not know that.
I think we must always remember those who die in the hands of occupiers and oppressors.
Esarhaddon
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: Shlama David,
: Yes, many thanks for bringing up this old stuff again.
: At least, you seem to be catching up with events.
: Your earlier and TIMELY intervention would have been more useful, indeed.
: As to the facts:
: APP already reported it.
: Here from a second source:
:
: " ... On April 2nd, Al Jazeera news network reported that Bartallah, a
: predominantly Iraqi Christian town north of Mosul, suffered heavy civilian
: casualties after a night of intense coalition bombing. The local chief
: surgeon at the hospital reported that there were 120 dead and wounded
: civilians brought into the hospital within the past week.
: Al Jazeera showed footage of an Iraqi Christian with severe injuries to his
: face and head. In the bed next to him lay his wife, who miscarried shortly
: after being brought into the hospital. Local doctors said her face required
: 200 stitches and will likely be disfigured. The couple did not know at press
: time that their three-year old daughter had died in the bombing. .."
: Below an article form antiwar.com mentioning also Bartallah
: Best
:
: Andreas
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: http://www.antiwar.com/orig/atraqchi3.html
: ANTIWAR, Thursday, April 3, 2003
: Shedding No Tears for Iraqi Civilians
: by Firas Al-Atraqchi
: YellowTimes.org columnist
: On March 31st, ten women and children were killed near Najaf when a van they
: were in was riddled with fire from U.S. Marines who had tried to get it to
: stop at a military checkpoint. After Saturday's suicide bombing that caused
: the death of four U.S. Marines at another checkpoint, coalition forces are
: now instructed to shoot at any vehicle or person that does not stop.
: U.S. Marines said they had shouted at the driver to stop but to no avail.
: They then fired warning shots, but the van ploughed on. The matter is still
: under investigation.
: (According to the BBC, and quoting the Washington Post, there are
: conflicting reports that the warning shots were fired too late to warn off
: the van. "You just [expletive] killed a family because you didn't fire a
: warning shot soon enough!" the paper quotes Captain Ronny Johnson as telling
: his platoon leader.)
: U.S. officials are worried this incident will weigh heavily on their
: campaign to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people and convince them
: that this is a war of liberation.
: (Professor Des Ball, of the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre of
: Canberra's Australian National University (ANU), believes that the coalition
: may already be losing the publicity war: "Saddam and his regime will go but
: the coalition's other war aims, I believe, are in tatters,")
: Last week, embedded London Times reporter Mark Franchetti gave the following
: chilling account of a battle that ensued for a strategic bridge over the
: Euphrates river:
: "Down the road, a little girl, no older than five and dressed in a pretty
: orange and gold dress, lay dead in a ditch next to the body of a man who may
: have been her father. Half his head was missing."
: Franchetti reports that the U.S. Marines have become disillusioned after
: nearly two weeks of fierce fighting with Iraqi forces. The fight for the
: bridge at Nasiriyah will likely be forgotten as just another chapter in the
: war. However, for Franchetti it brought him face to face with the horrid
: facade of a war plan gone wrong:
: "But it was also the turning point when the jovial band of brothers from
: America lost all their assumptions about the war and became jittery
: aggressors who talked of wanting to 'nuke' the place."
: While one soldier confided to Franchetti that he was horrified at the
: civilian toll, other U.S. Marines have taken a different approach to
: liberating Iraq:
: "The Iraqis are sick people and we are the chemotherapy," said Corporal Ryan
: Dupre. "I am starting to hate this country. Wait till I get hold of a
: friggin' Iraqi. No, I won't get hold of one. I'll just kill him."
: Innocent Iraqis are being killed by the dozens every day in the current
: phase of the war.
: Agence France Presse reported that "20 people including 11 children, were
: killed Saturday when a nighttime air raid hit a farm in the Al-Janabiin
: suburb on the edge of Baghdad."
: On April 2nd, Al Jazeera news network reported that Bartallah, a
: predominantly Iraqi Christian town north of Mosul, suffered heavy civilian
: casualties after a night of intense coalition bombing. The local chief
: surgeon at the hospital reported that there were 120 dead and wounded
: civilians brought into the hospital within the past week.
: Al Jazeera showed footage of an Iraqi Christian with severe injuries to his
: face and head. In the bed next to him lay his wife, who miscarried shortly
: after being brought into the hospital. Local doctors said her face required
: 200 stitches and will likely be disfigured. The couple did not know at press
: time that their three-year old daughter had died in the bombing.
: By the time there is a cessation of hostilities, thousands of dead Iraqi
: civilians will have been liberated. Supporters of the war are echoing
: Madeleine Albright and stating that it is better for Iraqis to be killed and
: liberated than to be butchered by Saddam. A popular myth making the rounds
: on the internet is that Saddam butchers many more Iraqis than anyone else,
: therefore this war is good for the Iraqis.
: The dead in Bartallah might disagree. If they could speak, that is.
-- XXXX BeitMalo
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