Re: Creating Spaces

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Posted by Sadie from D006173.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu (129.59.6.173) on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 5:38PM :

In Reply to: Re: Creating Spaces posted by farid from customer-148-233-93-47.uninet.net.mx (148.233.93.47) on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 3:48PM :

: : The term "sexist" has become an obscure term with an even vaguer meaning. Long are gone the 'feminist' ideals of "equality" because simply, all humans are not equal in every sense of the word. Humans do have underlying commonalities, but need, desire and expression varies so widely that certain spaces need to be reappropriated or manifested in order for full self expression and thus the awakening through realisation of humanity as a whole. We see this in no better an example than Guevara's "Socialism and Man" and in Cuban society today.

: ***I think equality under the law is all anyone expects...it`s enough. Of course people aren`t equal...look at BetBooHoo...he isn´t equal to much.

xxx You're right - feminists fought for equality under the law. & of course, capability & equality are not the same. I believe early feminists were fully aware that they were just as capable, if not more so, as individuals (in their fields of interest) than men, & that is what inspired them to fight for equality under the law. By fields of interest I mean: theater, music, law, medicine, physical sciences, other arts, etc. I am not saying that that is all that feminists wanted out of life, but that these early feminists realized that a woman with an inborn desire to follow whatever pursuit she wanted should be allowed, as human beings, to follow that pursuit & even earn an equal wage &/or recognition as her male peers. & of course, a lot of my friends who are involved in women's studies would say that now feminists are striving for recognition of women's traditional roles as an extremely valuable contribution to a society. In other words, my feminist friends believe that ALL hard work accomplished by women ought to be valued to the same extent that similar hard work by men is valued.

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