Re: To Lilly

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Posted by Lilly from ? (160.129.27.22) on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 at 3:10PM :

In Reply to: To Lilly posted by Jeff from bgp01107368bgs.wbrmfd01.mi.comcast.net (68.42.59.180) on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 at 2:43PM :

: I do want to say that one must acnowledge the incredible reach our constitution and bill of rights have had on other countries, and the world in general.

xxx On Sept 16, 1987 the U.S. Senate passed a resolution stating that the U.S. Constitution was explicitly modeled upon the Iroquois Confederacy.

: Imagine everyone's surprise in high school "US Government" class when the teacher explained that it is the DUTY of the American people to rise up against their government should it ever become corrupt and oppressive. With the freedoms and rights that we are given, comes that resposibility.

xxx Yeah, but didn't those teachers also teach you how corrupt the founding fathers were? The Constitutional Assembly squabbled over everything they could - each person had his own agenda. Some wanted slavery to persist & others didn't.

xxx I'm NOT arguing against the duty of citizens to rise up against their government. In fact, I'm arguing that the motives for government action have always to be taken into account. I think there has always been propaganda & manipulation.

-- Lilly
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Re: To Lilly - panch 4:49PM 06/19/2002 () (15)

pancho, again, you are wrong. - Lilly 12:20PM 06/20/2002 () (3)
- Re: pancho, again, you are wrong. - panch 12:44PM 06/20/2002 () (2)
  - no - Lilly 1:24PM 06/20/2002 () (1)
    - Re: no - panch 7:25PM 06/20/2002 () (0)
wrong again, pancho. - Lilly 11:21AM 06/20/2002 () (10)
- Re: wrong again, pancho. - panch 12:50PM 06/20/2002 () (7)
  - negotiate this, then - Lilly 2:42PM 06/20/2002 () (6)
    - Re: negotiate this, then - panch 7:30PM 06/20/2002 () (5)
      - again, your stupidity shines through - Lilly 1:46PM 06/22/2002 () (4)
        
        OR - Lilly 2:01PM 06/22/2002 () (3)
        
        Re: OR - panch 11:30AM 06/23/2002 () (0)
        
        I meant - Lilly 2:33PM 06/22/2002 () (1)
        
        Re: I meant - panch 11:45AM 06/23/2002 () (0)
- those were Lincoln's quotes - Lilly 11:25AM 06/20/2002 () (1)
  - Re: those were Lincoln's quotes - panch 12:51PM 06/20/2002 () (0)

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