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Posted by Tony from ? (167.88.192.30) on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 at 3:30PM :

In Reply to: "Real-Time Man" not "Real Time-Man posted by andreas from p3EE3C3EF.dip.t-dialin.net (62.227.195.239) on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 at 2:54PM :

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: "Real-Time Man" not "Real Time-Man"

: Like in "real-time (weather/research)data".

: Referring to your "PRESENT ISSUES"as against past or future ones.

: :
: : Isn't that kind of PASSE

: :

: : : Tony, the "Real Time Man", turns Serial Killer ?

: : : Can't be the solution.

: : : Why not openly investigate, question, debunk, challenge and ... excel those leaders ?

: :
: : : : Your too reasonable, that wont work.

: : : : Very good point.

: : : : I think part of our problem is that we put great emphasize in our PAST and FUTURE that we forget the PRESENT ISSUES with our people.

: : : : I know what to do, If I ever get my hand on any of these Leaders.

: : : :

: :
: : : : : I'm typing this from the book "Childhood Leukemia: A Guide for Families, Friends, & Caregivers" by Nancy Keene. One can find this book in any library. We need team work with other people in the hospital. Has anyone gone to see a Childlife expert at the hospital she's currently in? Has a social worker been assigned for Lina? We should not be afraid to ask about finances, no matter what her status is. We should be able to negotiate prices & push to get what we want. Think of it as similar to buying a car, only w/ more serious consequences - Lina & her family are the customers. The hospital is there to make her better.

: : : : : Our leaders should have genuine friends in the medical community & be doing meaningful things for those friends so that they get the same in return - networking.
: : : : : ------------------------------
: : : : : p. 256-61
: : : : : Sources of financial assistance
: : : : : Sources of financial assistance vary from state to state and town to town. To begin to track down possible sources, ask the hospital social worker for assistance. In addition, some hospitals have community outreach nurses or case workers who may point out potential sources of assistance.

: : : : : Hospital policy
: : : : : If you find yourself unable to pay your hospital bills, don't sell your house or let your account go to collections. Ask the social worker to set up an appointment for you with the appropriate person to discuss the hospital policy on financial assistance. Many hospitals write off a percentage of the cost of care if the patient is uninsured or underinsured.

: : : : : .............

: : : : : Free medicine programs
: : : : : Many drug companies have programs to provide free medicines (including chemotherapy) to needy patients. Eligibility requirements vary, but most are available to those not covered by private or public insurance programs. Ask your physician to request, on letterhead, a free copy of the Directory of Pharmaceutical Indigent Programs from:

: : : : : Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association
: : : : : 1100 15th St. NW
: : : : : Washington DC 20005
: : : : : Toll free hotline for physicians: 1-800-PMA-INFO
: : : : : http://www.oncolink.com/

: : : : : Service organizations
: : : : : There are numerous service organizations that can help families in need. They provide all kinds of aid: transportation, wigs, special wheelchairs, and food. Often, all a family has to do is describe their plight, and good Samaritans appear. Some organizations that may exist in your community are American Legion; Elks Club; fraternal organizations such as the Masons, Jaycees, Kiwanis Club, Knights of Columbus, Lions, Rotary; United Way; Veterans of Foreign Wars; & churches of all denominations. In addition, local philanthropic organizations exist in many communities. To locate them, call your local Health Department, speak to the social worker, and ask for help.

: : : : : Organized fund raising
: : : : : Many communities rally around a child with cancer by organizing a fund. Help is given in various ways, ranging from mason jars in local stores to an organized drive using all of the local media. There are many pitfalls to avoid in fund raising, and great care must be exercised to protect the privacy of the sick child as much as possible. If you are contemplating starting a fund, read Sheila Peterson's "A Special Way to Care." This guide gives detailed, step-by-step advice on determining the needs of the family, finding benefits, using publicity, generating community support, and managing the funds.

: : : : : Resources

: : : : : Organizations

: : : : : The Sparrow Foundation
: : : : : 1155 N. 130th Suite 310
: : : : : Seattle WA 98104
: : : : : (206) 745-5403

: : : : : This nonprofit charitable and educational organization was started by the family of a child who needed a bone marrow transplant, for which their insurance carrier refused to pay (described in the book "One Small Sparrow"). The foundation provides seed money to schools, youth organizations, service clubs, and churches which help persons with medical needs.

: : : : : Steven Greenwood Childhood Cancer Foundation
: : : : : 1555 Wilson Blvd., Suite 300
: : : : : Arlington, VA 22209
: : : : : (703) 875-8627

: : : : : Provides financial aid for non-medical expenses of patients diagnosed with cancer prior to age twenty-one.

: : : : : Cancer Fund of America
: : : : : 2901 Breezewood Lane
: : : : : Knoxville, TN 37921
: : : : : 1-800-578-5284
: : : : : FAX: (615) 938-2968

: : : : : Helps defray cancer-related expenses not covered by insurance.

: : : : : The Leukemia Society of America
: : : : : This organization can provide up to $750 worth of assistance.

: : : : : ....................
: : : : : p.410-411
: : : : : Paying for the transplant
: : : : : Bone marrow transplants are expensive, averaging from $200,000-$300,000 for the transplant, hospitalizatino, and follow-up care. Fees for the donor search, donor blood tests, donor physical exam, and bone marrow harvest can total more than $30,000.... If you are not insured (or underinsured) and must raise all or part of the necessary funds, contact the "Organizations for financial assistance" listed at the end of this chapter. They may be able to offer some financial help, and can supply advice on how to quickly and effectively raise funds. Before working with any of these organizations, ask for all printed information available, and ask questions about any fees or costs associated with their services. Make sure that when the treatment is completed or the child dies, any remaining funds may be applied to outstanding medical debts.

: : : : : ......................
: : : : : p.424-425
: : : : : Organizations for financial assistance
: : : : : In addition to those below, there are many state and regional organizations which provide emotional and financial assistance to families of a child undergoing a bone marrow transplant. Appendix B of the "Candlelighters Guide to Bone Marrow Transplants in Children" lists many such organizations. You could also call Candlelighters at 1-800-366-CCCF to obtain an up-to-date listing.

: : : : : Children's Organ Transplant Association
: : : : : 2501 Cota Drive
: : : : : Bloomington, IN 47403
: : : : : 1-800-366-2682

: : : : : Offers guidance and assistance in all aspects of fund-raising for those who need to raise money for transplants. A COTA staff member will travel to the site of the campaign, help the campaign obtain 501(c)(3) status, provide a toll-free number, and advise on all aspects of fund-raising. Emergency funds available.

: : : : : National Children's Cancer Society
: : : : : 1015 Locust St. Suite 1040
: : : : : St. Louis, MO 63101
: : : : : (314) 241-1600 or 1-800-5-FAMILY
: : : : : FAX (314) 241-6949

: : : : : NCCS offers a multifaceted outreach program, which includes financial assistance, education, information, and emotional support. They provide financial assistance for bone marrow transplantation, donor harvest, donor search, donor recruitment, and family emergency expenses (such as travel, hotel, food). They also have an active advocacy program to help families with insurance companies, hospitals, Medicaid, the National Marrow Donor Program, and the American Registry.

: : : : : Organ Transplant Fund
: : : : : 1027 South Yates Rd.
: : : : : Memphis, TN 38119
: : : : : 1-800-489-3863 or (901) 684-1697

: : : : : Gives financial assistance for transplants as well as helps patients who need a bone marrow transplant organize fund-raisers. If maintains accounts to which tax-deductible contributions can be made and has a support program that provides practical help with arrangements and advocacy.

: : : : : The Barbara DeBoer Foundation
: : : : : 2069 S. Busse Road
: : : : : Mount Prospect, IL 60056
: : : : : 1-800-895-8478

: : : : : Helps identify and utilize resources in your community to raise necessary funds for transplants.

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Message:	: : LOL : Cheers! : : : "Real-Time Man" not "Real Time-Man" : : Like in "real-time (weather/research)data". : : Referring to your "PRESENT ISSUES"as against past or future ones. : : : : : : : Isn't that kind of PASSE : : : : : : : Tony, the "Real Time Man", turns Serial Killer ? : : : : Can't be the solution. : : : : Why not openly investigate, question, debunk, challenge and ... excel those leaders ? : : : : : : : : Your too reasonable, that wont work. : : : : : Very good point. : : : : : I think part of our problem is that we put great emphasize in our PAST and FUTURE that we forget the PRESENT ISSUES with our people. : : : : : I know what to do, If I ever get my hand on any of these Leaders. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : I'm typing this from the book "Childhood Leukemia: A Guide for Families, Friends, & Caregivers" by Nancy Keene. One can find this book in any library. We need team work with other people in the hospital. Has anyone gone to see a Childlife expert at the hospital she's currently in? Has a social worker been assigned for Lina? We should not be afraid to ask about finances, no matter what her status is. We should be able to negotiate prices & push to get what we want. Think of it as similar to buying a car, only w/ more serious consequences - Lina & her family are the customers. The hospital is there to make her better. : : : : : : Our leaders should have genuine friends in the medical community & be doing meaningful things for those friends so that they get the same in return - networking. : : : : : : ------------------------------ : : : : : : p. 256-61 : : : : : : Sources of financial assistance : : : : : : Sources of financial assistance vary from state to state and town to town. To begin to track down possible sources, ask the hospital social worker for assistance. In addition, some hospitals have community outreach nurses or case workers who may point out potential sources of assistance. : : : : : : Hospital policy : : : : : : If you find yourself unable to pay your hospital bills, don't sell your house or let your account go to collections. Ask the social worker to set up an appointment for you with the appropriate person to discuss the hospital policy on financial assistance. Many hospitals write off a percentage of the cost of care if the patient is uninsured or underinsured. : : : : : : ............. : : : : : : Free medicine programs : : : : : : Many drug companies have programs to provide free medicines (including chemotherapy) to needy patients. Eligibility requirements vary, but most are available to those not covered by private or public insurance programs. Ask your physician to request, on letterhead, a free copy of the Directory of Pharmaceutical Indigent Programs from: : : : : : : Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association : : : : : : 1100 15th St. NW : : : : : : Washington DC 20005 : : : : : : Toll free hotline for physicians: 1-800-PMA-INFO : : : : : : http://www.oncolink.com/ : : : : : : Service organizations : : : : : : There are numerous service organizations that can help families in need. They provide all kinds of aid: transportation, wigs, special wheelchairs, and food. Often, all a family has to do is describe their plight, and good Samaritans appear. Some organizations that may exist in your community are American Legion; Elks Club; fraternal organizations such as the Masons, Jaycees, Kiwanis Club, Knights of Columbus, Lions, Rotary; United Way; Veterans of Foreign Wars; & churches of all denominations. In addition, local philanthropic organizations exist in many communities. To locate them, call your local Health Department, speak to the social worker, and ask for help. : : : : : : Organized fund raising : : : : : : Many communities rally around a child with cancer by organizing a fund. Help is given in various ways, ranging from mason jars in local stores to an organized drive using all of the local media. There are many pitfalls to avoid in fund raising, and great care must be exercised to protect the privacy of the sick child as much as possible. If you are contemplating starting a fund, read Sheila Peterson's "A Special Way to Care." This guide gives detailed, step-by-step advice on determining the needs of the family, finding benefits, using publicity, generating community support, and managing the funds. : : : : : : Resources : : : : : : Organizations : : : : : : The Sparrow Foundation : : : : : : 1155 N. 130th Suite 310 : : : : : : Seattle WA 98104 : : : : : : (206) 745-5403 : : : : : : This nonprofit charitable and educational organization was started by the family of a child who needed a bone marrow transplant, for which their insurance carrier refused to pay (described in the book "One Small Sparrow"). The foundation provides seed money to schools, youth organizations, service clubs, and churches which help persons with medical needs. : : : : : : Steven Greenwood Childhood Cancer Foundation : : : : : : 1555 Wilson Blvd., Suite 300 : : : : : : Arlington, VA 22209 : : : : : : (703) 875-8627 : : : : : : Provides financial aid for non-medical expenses of patients diagnosed with cancer prior to age twenty-one. : : : : : : Cancer Fund of America : : : : : : 2901 Breezewood Lane : : : : : : Knoxville, TN 37921 : : : : : : 1-800-578-5284 : : : : : : FAX: (615) 938-2968 : : : : : : Helps defray cancer-related expenses not covered by insurance. : : : : : : The Leukemia Society of America : : : : : : This organization can provide up to $750 worth of assistance. : : : : : : .................... : : : : : : p.410-411 : : : : : : Paying for the transplant : : : : : : Bone marrow transplants are expensive, averaging from $200,000-$300,000 for the transplant, hospitalizatino, and follow-up care. Fees for the donor search, donor blood tests, donor physical exam, and bone marrow harvest can total more than $30,000.... If you are not insured (or underinsured) and must raise all or part of the necessary funds, contact the "Organizations for financial assistance" listed at the end of this chapter. They may be able to offer some financial help, and can supply advice on how to quickly and effectively raise funds. Before working with any of these organizations, ask for all printed information available, and ask questions about any fees or costs associated with their services. Make sure that when the treatment is completed or the child dies, any remaining funds may be applied to outstanding medical debts. : : : : : : ...................... : : : : : : p.424-425 : : : : : : Organizations for financial assistance : : : : : : In addition to those below, there are many state and regional organizations which provide emotional and financial assistance to families of a child undergoing a bone marrow transplant. Appendix B of the "Candlelighters Guide to Bone Marrow Transplants in Children" lists many such organizations. You could also call Candlelighters at 1-800-366-CCCF to obtain an up-to-date listing. : : : : : : Children's Organ Transplant Association : : : : : : 2501 Cota Drive : : : : : : Bloomington, IN 47403 : : : : : : 1-800-366-2682 : : : : : : Offers guidance and assistance in all aspects of fund-raising for those who need to raise money for transplants. A COTA staff member will travel to the site of the campaign, help the campaign obtain 501(c)(3) status, provide a toll-free number, and advise on all aspects of fund-raising. Emergency funds available. : : : : : : National Children's Cancer Society : : : : : : 1015 Locust St. Suite 1040 : : : : : : St. Louis, MO 63101 : : : : : : (314) 241-1600 or 1-800-5-FAMILY : : : : : : FAX (314) 241-6949 : : : : : : NCCS offers a multifaceted outreach program, which includes financial assistance, education, information, and emotional support. They provide financial assistance for bone marrow transplantation, donor harvest, donor search, donor recruitment, and family emergency expenses (such as travel, hotel, food). They also have an active advocacy program to help families with insurance companies, hospitals, Medicaid, the National Marrow Donor Program, and the American Registry. : : : : : : Organ Transplant Fund : : : : : : 1027 South Yates Rd. : : : : : : Memphis, TN 38119 : : : : : : 1-800-489-3863 or (901) 684-1697 : : : : : : Gives financial assistance for transplants as well as helps patients who need a bone marrow transplant organize fund-raisers. If maintains accounts to which tax-deductible contributions can be made and has a support program that provides practical help with arrangements and advocacy. : : : : : : The Barbara DeBoer Foundation : : : : : : 2069 S. Busse Road : : : : : : Mount Prospect, IL 60056 : : : : : : 1-800-895-8478 : : : : : : Helps identify and utilize resources in your community to raise necessary funds for transplants.

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