Re: Another QUESTION?

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Posted by panchmaster from ? (63.164.145.161) on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 1:39PM :

In Reply to: Another QUESTION? posted by Ashur Bar Ninvayah from adsl-67-37-225-233.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net (67.37.225.233) on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 1:04PM :

: Are you saying then, that if the other side won, that we would all be better off as Moslems?

+++The best people get that way INSPITE of these three religions from hell...never BECAUSE of them.

And yes C.S. Lewis was a Christian apologist, but he didn't start off that way, he began as an atheist.

+++Lots of people start off right then screw up. It's okay...Christians NEED to apologize more than most.

And one point that I would think that you would agree with Lewis on is his assertion that, "We don't have control over what we feel, but we always have control over our will and, therefore, over what we say and do. And what we say or do determines whether we help or hurt others."

+++I love it...a guy has a hard time opening a can of beans...struggles to "master" it for years...finally gets the damn thing open...and spends the rest of his life telling us about what he "learned". You are easily impressed.

Lewis always emphasized that Agape is a "state of the will, which we have naturally about ourselves, and must learn to have about other people." This was a basic principle of human relationships for Lewis. He made the point that when you will the best for someone and act accordingly, even toward a person you don't like, you begin to dislike that person less and to like him or her a little more.

+++Take a marshmallow and try to relax.

I am trying to see your point of view, but I get lost in all of the invective. What exactly is your worldview?

+++"Fuck Em All". That's the short version.

: Assuming, for the sake of argument, that everything that you have said is true - what is your solution?

+++Stop telling the truth...obviously.

: Ashur

+++Usure?

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How Did You Make The Leap? - Ashur Bar Ninvayah 2:33PM 10/22/2002 () (3)

It Was Easy - panchmaster 3:54PM 10/22/2002 () (2)
- Hyperbole and Hostility Is What You are All About - Ashur Bar Ninvayah 7:10PM 10/22/2002 () (1)
  - Re: Hyperbole and Hostility Is What You are All A - panchmaster 7:17PM 10/22/2002 () (0)

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