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Andy Younan wrote: >Farid, > >>>How many "decent people in the Church" do you have to meet before you realize that they're NOT the exception - that THEY are the real Christians? >> >>***Decent people don`t GO TO CHURCH...Decent people don`t confuse love with sacrifice and suffering...Decent people don`t worship at the foot of a corpse...Decent people need no incentive to BE decent! >... >>***Thank you...and they`re never going to get that way as long as you keep rushing in with heaven and hell before their minds can develop. Doing good "makes sense"... > >How is it any worse - much more, how does it make someone a bad person - to do a good thing for "incentive," as you call it, than to do it "because it makes sense?" What do you MEAN by "it makes sense" except that it makes one happy? What do you think Heaven means besides that? It's was never thought of as only an "after death" thing; "the kingdom of heaven is among you now..." I know, I know... "How DARE" I use a Christian source to show what Christianity has to say?...silly me. ***You创re usuinmg a Jewish source...can创t you get ANYTHING right? Besides we already settled the fact that goodness and love have nothing exclusive to Christianity about them. Stop trying to take credit for what existerd long before you showed up. You创re contribution has been murder. > >If someone dedicates her life to feeding orphans, is she WORSE for believing in heaven? Does that "incentive" ruin her compassion? Does thinking "as Christ gave everything to the world to show his love, so should I give everything for these kids" make her a BAD PERSON? ****It makes he motives suspect...though of course we创ll take ther good with the bad. It would be better if five angels with firew snorting out their assholes didn创t have to "move" her first...or at all. > >> responsibility for these fucking Evangelicals your church let loose on the rest of us. > >There is no reason I or anyone should "take responsibility" for any Evangelical. If the Church, according to you, can't take any "credit" for all the good, sweet people who love the Church, because "they ALL would've been good and sweet anyway," why should I have to explain the actions of a group that explicitly hates the Church and attacks it at every opportunity? ****Because they learned this crap at your feet...like Jesus learned his at the foot of the Temple and then went on to destroy it. You people will take credit for anything that gets you the Goods...whether it existed before and without you or not..and then you创ll turn around and condemn those who "got it wrong" but got it from YOU! You are trank opportunist of the loswest order too because you use heaven and gods and gifts to con people with. > >> The promise of heaven and the threat of hell - which I believe are real, obviously - are the first kick in the pants for the selfish bastards whom Christ came to save. >> >>***Oh...so they`re bastards are they? Where`d that love for everybody go to? > >Bastards can be loved, too, Farid. They're the ones Christ came to save. ***Give us all a break will you? Your church is killing people...not saving them. I创m not the one blessing those bombs...your church is...of COURSE the head office is gonna talk out both sides of its mouth...you guys aren创t dummies...just criminal. > >Your tv pal, > >Andy --------------------- |
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