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Posted by Andy Younan (Guest) jonah2164@yahoo.com - Saturday, December 13 2003, 1:16:56 (EST)
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Farid,

>***We of BetNahrain had lots of gods...but we never said ours was the only one, or the only ten. There were other temples, there were other priests, there were other holy days and rituals. It was your Jews and their offspring the Christians who began this one and only bullshit and took to killing people...children too, who wouldn{t confrom..,.as they still are.

There are plenty of bad reasons to kill people...religion and the state and all the rest. But they're bad reasons because they're abused. Christ said explicitly not to bother with people if they've heard the Gospel and rejected it... "leave that town and shake the dust off your feet." That is, LET IT GO. Christians who have killed people for not accepting the faith have EXPLICITLY acted against Christianity itself. If they were MORE Christian, no one would have died for believing otherwise.

>***That创s twaddle to begin with. You have no evidence at all that god loves you or gives a shit about you or knows of you. That创s more Jew-shit to explain away their miserable condition in the world back then. Naturally thery decided that being kicked from BetNahrain to Thebes to Perisa was an indication of God创s Love...that创s where you got this "god loves me" crap.

Not the question. How does this cause immorality?

>***Nazis were Christians too...very devout...though "wrong" in your eyes.

Seems to me Hitler rejected Jew-based Christianity in favor of an "authentic national religion." Sounds familiar.

>built for the first time only a few hundred years ago - just when things started getting REALLY violent.
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>***They创ve become really violent now because you创ve been at work assiduously for centuries feeding people blood and gore and telling them it创s the way to paradise. The Holocaust was a direct result of the teachings AND practise of the chiurch.

Here's the main point again. As long as you're out asking Christians whether their faith is a positive influence in their lives, ask Catholics what they believe about the Eucharist. "When you take Communion, do you become united to the Victim or to the killers? Do you become close to Jesus or close to the Romans?"

>***Think of heaven as a lifeboat from a sinking ship...you创d push anyone out of the way to get in there first...that创s what you创re doing on earth...participating in and accxepting anything that will win you paradise..and you want to be loved for THAT as well.

Except that "the Way" to that Paradise is exactly to die in order for others to live. Good analogy, by the way.

Your tv pal,

Andy



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