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Re: Meanwhile on Zinda
Posted by Jeff (Guest) - Sunday, April 25 2004, 19:24:54 (CEST)
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Tiglath wrote:
>Pascha Redux
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>Paul Younan
>Chicago
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>David Chibo's argument rests entirely upon making the "days of unleavened bread" a completely separate period of time from "the Passover." Unfortunately for his position, the term "Passover" is frequenty used of the entire celebration, including the days of unleavened bread after the actual sacrifice, in other places in scripture (note the term the "feast of the Jews" in verses like John 2:13; 2:23; 6:4 and 11:55.)
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>Mr. Chibo proceeds to cite Old Testament verses, in English nonetheless, to prove that "Pascha" and "Easter" must mean two different things. If Mr. Chibo had done his research into the history of English versions of the bible, he might have noticed that Coverdale's Bible, an English version predating the King James version by almost 100 years, in Ezekiel 45:21 reads " Upon the 14th day of the first month, ye shall keep Easter." Lo and behold! "Easter" was considered the correct English name for the Passover in 1535 England.
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>I understand Mr. Chibo's desire to find an Assyrian origin to everything under Shamash, but really - this line of reasoning fails linguistic, scholarly and especially scriptural tests. Pascha means Passover in the original Hebrew, Aramaic and even Greek. It never means anything else - no matter what late English translations may or may not say. I challenge Mr. Chibo to find any other reference to this word being used to descibe any Pagan holiday - otherwise, I kindly suggest that he retract such statements as being unworthy of his scholarly reputation.
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>My response
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>Ishtar redux
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>By Tiglath Chibo
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>This e-mail is in response to Paul Younan's letter regarding Pascha.
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>The biblical sources you gave, besides proving that the Passover was a feast day, in no way shape or form indicate that the Days of Unleavened bread and the feast day of passover were known by the same name.
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>Instead they are shown to be separate and distinct just as Acts 12:1-4 and your listed sources prove.
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>I say again the word, "Easter" has been incorrectly translated "Passover" in all Bible versions EXCEPT for the authorized King James version (AKJV). In the passage Acts 12:1-4, King Herod killed James and when he saw that it pleased the Jews, he took Peter DURING the DAYS OF UNLEAVENED BREAD and was going to bring him forth to the people AFTER Easter.
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>Therefore, Easter(Ishtar) could not be Passover because Passover occurs BEFORE the days of unleavened bread which is when they arrested Peter. Passover had come and gone. Herod decided to bring Peter forth AFTER Easter. This is the sequence:
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>1. PASSOVER
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>2. DAYS OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
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>3. EASTER(ISHTAR)
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>When the AKJV says EASTER in Acts 12:4 it is correct. When the other versions say PASSOVER in Acts 12:4 they are incorrect. And Easter in this passage is referring to our very own ancient Babylonian festival commemorating the resurrection of our God Tammuz and Goddess Ishtar.
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>As clear and obvious as this evidence is, it still will not convince people who believe in not only the infallibility of the Bible, but in the infallibility of the older original Aramaic versions of the Bible.
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>These same people still deny that Moses's Ten commandments are an abridged version of our Babylonian King Hammurabi's code of Laws.
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>They will still deny that it was Napishtim from the Epic of Gilgamesh who collected two animals of every kind and built an ark.
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>They still believe that the Book of Job preceded the Akkadian poem, I Will Praise the Lord of Wisdom(Ludlul bel nemeqi) which deals with the problem of the righteous sufferer.
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>They still deny that the so-called Song of Solomon bares an uncanny resemblance to the love poems written to commemorate the sacred marriage of Ishtar and Tammuz during the Autumn Equinox celebrations.
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>And they still deny that it was King Sargon who was found floating down a river as a babe and not Moses.
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>Now considering that of the 100 million cuneiform tablets left by our ancient ancestors in and around Iraq only 1 million have thus far been uncovered and of those 1 million only 25% have been translated. That means that ONLY 0.25% of our ancient knowledge has come down to us from our ancestors. If this small percentage of our knowledge has invalidated so much of the Bible already I believe that once uncovered and translated our cuneiform tablets will show the Bible to be nothing but a plagiarised version of our ancient myths, epics and poems.
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>So in that respect I agree with you Paul, let's go back to the original sources of the Bible but not the Aramaic version that you are referring to but to the original cuneiform tablets written by our ancestors thousands of years before the Bible was “written.”
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Mr. Chibo. You are correct in using quotation marks around "written", when referring to the HOLY BIBLE. Obviously it couldn't have been WRITTEN, because GOD spoke it and thus it was created from his words, by the power of our saviour. In a similar fashion, the "Passion of the Christ" was not created and directed by MEL GIBSON, rather, GOD HIMSELF willed it to be created, and thus it was...and it was good.



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