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Re: One I Missed
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Monday, March 1 2004, 20:46:22 (EST)
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The Nineveh Kid wrote:
>12. Had there been newspapers and news shows and printing presses and independent eyewitnesses...what might they have seen to report in Betnahrain at the time Christianity first appeared?
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>I honestly don't know. I just don't think that we have enough information to know exactly how it all came down, however, I'll hazard an opinion.

...this shows you that people simply to choose whatever suits them and then put a gd's seal to it after...there was no prophecy in the bible..those damnfool just wrote after something happened as if it was going to happen and then patted their god on the back for his prophecy...any...since you are willing to take the word of five Jews of 2000 years ago for something that completely contradicts every law on earth...you won't mind if I use my Free Will instead to figure it out for myself...this is how I deduce it...and I don't take anyone's word for it...just the facts Ma'am...there has been no recorded event EVER in which a people, certainly not one as refined as we were, simply threw everything away for this Jew business...what adds to ones suspicion of old roly poly church is that BEFORE there are any witnesses..they INSIST everyone who ever heard of JC fell all over themselves and were so MAD they'd been wrong so long and couldn't wait to turn Jew...this would indicate...again assuming up is up and down is down...that someone is lying...unless of course people happened to read more and learn more and as a result of the eyewitnessess and independent accounts, the Church found it rough going from then on to convert anybody...take your pick...we also have a bit of a clue in the fact that various denominations sent a passle of missionaries in the late 1800's to convert Christians..to win them away from the old Church...to these new Protestant sects..and they succeeded in good measure..and how did they do that...if the essentials are all the same and it's all one god etc? They did it by offering goodies..that's right...that same old trick that gets Christians to stay Christians...the Protestants backed by organizations in America, England, France, Germany...just incidentally all the European countries who would come back in a mere decade or two and grab those lands, not for the souls there but for the oil...these organizations had the money for books, heating oil, classes and other things the dirt poor villagers couldn't afford...so naturally THESE versions of the SAME old Jew god were even better..and these Christians converted to Christianity...so you can see the church has had to do considerably more than just show up...and since the church and state work hand in hand...it's a good bet that they came together to betNahrain and did NOT find the people AT ALL interested in this jew nonsense...and so they beat them into submission and took their children from them..as Christians have been taken away from Ashur and now make war on his lands instead.


First, word of what happened and the message of the Gospel was spread slowly by word of mouth and as converts to the faith multiplied they probably established centers of worship.

...there is nothing in your Gospel to impress anyone..certainly not the people of BetNahrain...the most advanced civilization of its day and although they lost theirm power..they did not willingly give up their beliefs and culture...we know the Church has robbed people of their identities all through recorded history..it's a safe bet they were doing even more of the same when there was no one around to tell on them.

I doubt that there was much of an organized religion in that area for quite a while.

...speculation based on nothing but your need to have it so. If we were the "same" as the Jews...we probably held onto our beliefs even more now that empire was gone...we were just defenseless in the face of the Roman Empire..as Jesus was.

Probably for a considerable period of time there was a merging of some of the old religious practices and superstitions with the new religion.

...speculation on your part again based on nothing more than your need to apologize for what the rest of us know from the evidence all around and the rescord of that church be the case...based on solid evidence supplied to us by your own church...though unwillingly. If they cover up the crimes of child molestation the way they do today..when you'd think they would be the FIRST to out the fuckers...we can guess pretty well what they did with embarrassing fact 1300 years ago.

I think it took at least 300 to 400 years to establish an organized religious structure that was clearly differentiated from the old ways and beliefs. There was no conquering Jewish army that imposed Christianity on our people against their will.

...no one said there was..there was never a conquering Jewish ANYTHING. I said from the start it was the Romans...the Romans...who went on to kill Jesus and make him their state religion...that fact alone should damn it in anyone's eyes...Constantine murdered his wife and two sons..after turning Christian...I'm sure he agonized over it.



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