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Re: The Constitution
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Tuesday, February 10 2004, 19:03:53 (EST)
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...some commentary...nothing is sacred...that`s how come the Colonists were able to draft this thing.
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>The Constitution of the United States (1787)
> WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

...okay, so maybe those white men were only thinking "white men"...and with property too...but they said PEOPLE!
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>Constitution of the Confederate States of America (1861)
>We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.

...Does it come as a surprise that the people wanting to own other people and rape them and deny them liberty or dignity and whip them and sell their children like cattle and lynch them...would invoke You-Know-Whom?
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>The Articles of Confederation (Agreed to by Congress November 15, 1777; ratified and in force, March 1, 1781)
> TO ALL TO WHOM these Presents shall come, we the undersigned Delegates of the States affixed to our Names send greeting. Whereas the Delegates of the United States of America in Congress assembled did on the fifteenth day of November in the Year of our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy seven, and in the Second Year of the Independence of America agree to certain articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the States of New Hampshire, Massachusetts bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia in the Words following, viz. "Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the states of New Hampshire, Massachusetts bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia.
> Article I. The Style of this confederacy shall be "The United States of America."
> Article II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom and independence, and every Power, Jurisdiction and right, which is not by this confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.
> Article III. The said states hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defence, the security of their Liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretence whatever.

...once again...it just says "religion"...okay...Jeffereson never suspected that one day Islam would become popular in the United States...but the fact that they didn`t rule it out...speaks volumes.
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>The Constitution of Massachusetts (March 2, 1780)
> The end of the institution, maintenance and administration of government, us to secure the existence of the body politic, to protect it, and to furnish the individuals who compose it, with the power of enjoying in safety and tranquility their natural rights, and blessing of life: and whenever these peat objects are not obtained, the people have a right to alter the government, and to take measures necessary for their safety, prosperity, and happiness.
> The body politic is formed by a voluntary association of individuals: it is a social compact, by which the whole people covenants with each citizen, and each citizen with the whole people, that all shall be governed by certain laws for the common good. It is the duty of the people, therefore, in framing a constitution of government, to provide for an equitable mode of making laws, as well as for an impartial interpretation, and a faithful execution of them; that every man may, at all times, find his security in them.
> We, therefore, the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging, with grateful hearts, the goodness of the great Legislator of the universe

...could be anybody...Yahwe...Ashur...Slugmug...anybody...again, they left as much latitude as any People could wish for...these Christian skunks of today will use the lure of a nation UNDER GOD to get you and me to allow them to alter this ...not because they give a shit about god...but because once they begin altering it they can alter those parts that give us, the people, the power to legally stop them from raping us and our environment...they could give a shit about a foetus....not when they murder 500,000 children...was murder not abortion?


, in affording us, in the course of His providence , an opportunity, deliberately and peaceably, without fraud, violence or surprise, of entering into an original, explicit, and solemn compact with each other; and of forming a new constitution of civil government, for ourselves and posterity; and devoutly imploring His direction in so interesting a design , do agree upon, ordain and establish, the following Declaration of Rights, and Frame of Government as the CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS.

..okay, so they srwed up and said "He"...let it slide...as long as Queer Transvestites get their rights..and under this same document they can.
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>Constitution of South Carolina (June 3, 1790)
> WE, the delegates of the people of the state of South Carolina, in general convention met, do ordain and establish this constitution for its government
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>Constitution of New Jersey (July 2, 1776 )
> WHEREAS, all the constitutional authority ever possessed by the kings of Great Britain over these colonies, or their other dominions, was, by compact, derived from the people, and held of them, for the common interest of the whole society; allegiance and protection are, in the nature of things, reciprocal ties, each equally depending upon the other, and liable to be dissolved by the others being refused or withdrawn: And whereas George the Third,

...George The Bush???


king of Great Britain, has refused protection to the good people of these colonies; and, by assenting to sundry acts of the British parliament, attempted to subject them to the absolute dominion of that body; and has also made war upon them, in the most cruel and unnatural manner,

...Whoops! Go George! Iraq anyone?

for no other cause than asserting their just rights--all civil authority under him is necessarily at an end, and a dissolution of government in each colony has consequently taken place.




> And whereas, in the present deplorable situation of these colonies, exposed to the fury of a cruel and relentless enemy, some form of government is absolutely necessary, not only for the preservation of good order, but also the more effectually to unite the people, and enable them to exert their whole force in their own necessary defence: and as the honorable the continental congress, the supreme council of the American colonies, has advised such of the colonies as have not yet gone into measures, to adopt for themselves, respectively, such government as shall best conduce to their own happiness and safety, and the well being of America in general:--We, the representatives of the colony of New Jersey, having been elected by all the counties, in the freest manner, and in congress assembled, have, after mature deliberation, agreed upon a set of charter rights, and the form of a constitution, in the manner following, viz. . . . .

...Gee...it would seem the Palestinians are following in a noble tradition of fighting oppression..no matter what the odds...the sacrifices they must make or what George is against them.
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>So my commentary will be short. Obviously you can see that some of the constitutions expressly mentioned G O D, but "THE" constitution did not. Some may argue that the phrase "blessings of liberty" or just the word "blessings" implies something granted by a diety, that it's a religious term, but I would counter that the word blessings has more than just a religious meaning. The founders were smart enough to leave man's laws to man when they wrote the Constitution.
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