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speaking of child psychology and playing at make-believe..here come Dooz hisself with the longest post he`s ever managed to raise and it`s all meek humility and reason...in it he mentions their Fronts again..which is what this is. Having exposed his parents the day before hedecided to try this approach...end result is the same..it is still a bunch of denominations all trying to best each other...right now ZOWWA is lead dog...but that can change any minute..but while they ARE in the lead...some people want to keep there and attach themselves because what else have they got, but more than that, when the house of Assyrian cards collapses, they wil be in the better position to rail and lambast the others...that`s all it is, the boys want to be on the team that stand the greatest chance to "win"...they will win nothing of course...in fact they lose considerbale...but there will be MORE of them on that one team...and at this point in their National Arena...it`s the best they can hope for...

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Re: Romeo Hakari BNDP G.S left his assyrian wife and kids for KORDETA

Posted By: Doozoota (Sherbrooke-HSE-ppp3608058.sympatico.ca)
Date: Wednesday, 31 March 2004, at 6:48 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Romeo Hakari BNDP G.S left his assyrian wife and kids for KORDETA (Ashur Shiba)

I hope that this discussion will be fruitfull as it deals witha very important issue.

What we say here is a matter of opinion and opinions although are exactly that yet one must back the opinions with pros and cons that make sense.

...opinions don`t need to be backed with anything..they are opinions. What do pros and cons have to do with it? Of course you`re going to be "pro" your opinion...huh? And you`ll produce whatevr cons you need...ahem. I think you meant to say "facts"...but then you know how that goes.

For example, you said "if you cant run
your own family how can you run our nation."

...this statement is silly enough on its own...your discourse to PROOVES it`s silly is another Front...like you`re capable of tackling the really HARD issues and so maybe we should all listen to you when you want everybody killed.

First of all whoever this man is as i don't know him, he is not running our nation, he is only holding a position in one of our political parties. The main point though is, in my opinion runnimg a family is completely independent and has no relation whatsoevr with running a nation. For example there are hundreds if not thousands of examples of men who run large corporations yet are faliures in their marriages, and those who continued their success, terminated their failing marriages ratrher than failing everything at the expense of saving their miserable marriages, and I am certain there are leaders, presidents and statesmen who are in the same catagory.

I believe it was Winston Churchill who wrote in his memoirs "I have met many heads of large corporations, statesment and presidents. Some were very intelligent and some were very stupid, but they all had one thing in common, they all had intelligent wives". There is a proverb that says "Behind every great man there is a great woman" or something to that effect. proverbs become as such when centuries prove their truth.

...oh MAN have I got a list of proverbs for YOU!

While this statement of yours "if you cant run
your own family how can you run our nation" is not written anywhere except to be spoken by Assyrians. Well if what you suggest is true then our nation should have been the most powerfull nation on the face of this planet.

...it was...when it was nation. You are a religious sect and act appropraitely...Assyrians were inclusive and would never kill people just for being people...you learned this intolerance from the sdame Hebrews you got "your" lord from...you are a Judo/Christian...not an Assyrian.

I will tell you where I think this cliche originated. when the Assyrians became Christains they became more Christian than the apostles themselves.

...the apostles were all Jews...and proud to be. Neither they nor Jesus ever said a word about being anything else..they were just scolding their own people...you mean to say that the Assyrians who converted, according to your pretty myth that they did it GLADLY and not at the point of a Roman sword...became more JEWISH than the apostles themselves...and you all still are...more Jewish than Assyrian I mean.

They literally adhered to the teaching of our Lord Eashoo Msheekha and one of them is about divorce.

...he also taught not to kill..and to forgive your enemies...and to love them as yourself...you are a very selective Christian..you pick all the rotten parts.

Therefore marriage was more sacred than the nation itself. It worked well when our nation was living in autonomy where the the man had his place as the warrior and protector and the woman as the providor and was the mountain behind her husband. things changed as we mixed in other socities and did they ever change.

...I think, in light of the size of most of our women...a better metaphor than "mountain" could have been found..but then you`re wrapped up in this "important" issue you can`t see the woman for the mountain.

There was a priest who was having nightmares with his children.

...then he should have slept in his own bed...no wonder the children were having nightmares.

they did not live to the standards as expected from the children of a priest. I asked him one simple question "Were you a priest prior to your children being born or after" he thought for a long moment then he thanked me without answering. You see they were teenagers before became a priest and he expected them to change to fit his changed position, and those changes were demanded and rebellion was what he faced.

...I agee, you should stick to simple things.

Unfortunately, and I am not implying that this is the situation with this gentlemen, but most Assyrians became involved in politics after they had been married for some time. Also, and most unfortunately, women have been shunned out of the political picture until recently and even then a very small percentage of Assyrian ladies are involved in the political arena alongside their husbands. At times a man must chose either his family or his nation and most times that choice is shoved down his throat by the wife.

Oops! Slipped our Front a little did we?

To make it clear, in my opinion a man who fails miserably in his marriage can be the great statesman or leader. It is a blessing to be in a successfull marriage with a strong, understanding and supportive spouse, but if not, one must chose the family or the nation.

...or, one can divorce the wife and the nation...at least the nation...as you all left an Assyrian for a Jew.

I don't know the facts nor do you from the sound of it of this particular case, as such to judge this man as you have is irrational and unfair. "Don't judge as you will be judged" applied here perfectly.

...Treat Others As You Would Wish To Be Treated..it`s the Golden Assyrian Rule. You don`t the facts most of the time..never seemed to bother you before...you don`t any of them now, except you must shore up ZOWWA at all costs.

You also said "Why not go after another Assyrian woman", and here you are contradicting yourself 100%. I don't need to elaborate on this observation, think about it and I am certain the contradiction will jump out and bite your nose.

...I`m afraid I don`t get it...sounds good though. Bite me.

You also wrote "Immorality, and
treasonise. Next time please think before
you post a stupid comment like that, how do
you think his wife feels, how do you think
his kids feel. A man ruined so many lives
for lust." Do you know if what you suggest to be fact? How do you know that his children and wife are not happier now? Who the hell are you to judge this man if you do not know all the facts?

...how do you know you`re an Assyrian? Seems to me far more worthy of discussion than all this hot air to prove what? That you can deal in simplicities?

You also wrote "I am not speaking of politics now, its the about the well being of his wife and kids. I am not attackin Romeo because hes from BNDP but im sure there proud of this moment." And i say to you that this is pure B.S. as the tone of your message and the way address Dr. Dadeesho as Dadeesho tells me that this is an opportunistic attack against BNDP and Dr. Dadeesho and it is as low as another attacking ZOWAA or The Honourable Younadam Kanna. Shame on you to bring this personal matter and private matter at that and use it for hidden reasons, while these reasons are very visible to anyone with any degree of intelligence.

...ask dadeesho what he thinks about men who lie about their academic degrees...all he has is the same BS you do. can a little shame be spared for you for bringing my mother and father into our discussion...or does Dadeeshoo find it honorable as well.

You also wrote "If Dadesho does not agree with Romeos action then Romeo should be relieved from his duties if he does then Romeo should stay and
that would show alot of the BNDP leadership". If I were Dr. Dadeeshoo I would not interfere in Romeo's personal life

...when you call for attacks against Iraqis and Kurds and want them dead you are "interfering" with their very personal lives. Remember the Golden Assyrian Rule..I do, that`s why I left your parents out of it.

nor allow Romeo's personal affairs to interfere with his position or duties with BNDP. In fact not knowing Romeo or his abilities or dedication to our national cause, your suggestion and animosity as expressed towards BNDP and Dr. dadeeshoo, i would assume that Romeo is a nationalist and capable person whom you envy.

...he is a capable person, very impressive...and so in the end this, your longest psoting ever basically told the guy to mind his own business...in and around which you managed to stroke several dics too...yours most of all...

Now a few questions for you, if you don't mind answering

...you should refrain from doing yourself what you just scolded this man for doing...no?

1. Are you married and do you have children?

2. Do you hold a position in the Assyrian national and/or political arena, if so to what capacity?

3. Are you a meber of ZOWAA or a supporter of ZOWAA? If your answer to this question is yes, please do our ZOWAA a favor and stop writing as you are doing a disservice to ZOWAA in particular and our National Front in general.

Instead pray with me for

ASSYRIA FOR ASSYRIANS
WITHOUT THIS
DEATH TO IRAQ, QURDISTAN AND ANY OTHER BASTARD COUNTRY ON ASSYRIAN HOMELANDS
NY

...you are no Assyrian...you are a lousy Christian.

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