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WASHINGTON, D.C. — "We are calling on...America not to stop; to go on with us on this blessed mission, which the Iraqi people will never forget: this blessed mission of liberation, of democracy, and of freedom."

...blessed mission...If I were a Muslim in Iraq I`d look for a Christian..any one will do..and send him to his blessed rest.

This is the plea of Younadem Kana, a member of the Iraqi Governing Council and leader of Iraq's Assyrian Democratic Movement.

..It`s a plea of Bush...made by Bush through the gaping mouth of Kanna...foot in mouth and all.

Kana has just wrapped up a whirlwind tour of the U.S., aimed at reaching out to Assyrian Americans and combating the image of Iraq as a lost cause. It has been a tiring journey — Kana has visited seven cities in six states in ten days — but well worth it. He knows first-hand what is at stake.

...sure, Halliburton is sweating too..all the war profiteers are counting on getting their pay-off...why shouldn`t Kanna work hard for it too?

FROM APARTHEID...
As an Assyrian Christian — the only one on the Governing Council — Kana and his people suffered greatly before the war. "During Saddam's time," Kana says, "we were disrespected guests in our own home." The Baathist regime destroyed close to 200 villages and over 125 churches and historical monasteries in the region; it tried to impose Koranic law on Christian children; it employed a policy of Arabization toward the Assyrian community; it assassinated the leader of the Assyrian Christian church; it exiled and killed many in the Chaldean community. "They destroyed us and deported our people, without even giving them a chance," Kana notes.

...bullshit...utter bullshit. A Christian minority with fanciful claims based on a language Jews and Egyptians spoke as well...people who are relieved they are no longer Assyrians but Christians instead.

In 1991, following his defeat in the first Iraq war, Saddam Hussein used religion to try to endear himself to the Islamic world. During this "faith campaign," symbolized by the addition of "Allah Akbar" (God is Great) to the Iraqi flag, Saddam closed down Christian businesses and shut Christians out of politics and positions of power. Unable to make a living for themselves, and weary of the persecution, many hundreds of thousands of Assyrians were forced to leave Iraq, fleeing to Europe, Australia, and the United States.

...and you can se why. They`ve come back with the Attackers of their country..work for them and profit from the misery of Iraqis..like they`ve done before. The only bright spot is that the same thing will happen again..the Liberators will leave when they have what they came for..and the Christians of Iraq who are left...especially rhose who`ve gone to the north and put themselves in prison camps...will be made to pay..just as any group of Muslim Americans would pay if they EVER helped Libya bring Democracy to New York.

"Under Saddam's sectarian, apartheid policies, we were fifth-degree citizens," Kana explains. "First came the Sunnis, then the Shiites, then the Kurds, then the Turkomen, and we were fifth — unwelcome, even though we are Iraq's native people. This oppression was for nothing more than our Christian faith and our Assyrian ethnicity; we were allowed only to be Baath-party members, and to be Arabized."

...Tariq Azziz and Donny George and countless others prove you wrong. Though because they worked for the good of the ENTIRE country they count as Traitors to you...you who takes pay from those attacking Iraq. The Christians Saddam targetted were the ones in those villages teaching sedition in the guise of religion in that "language of Christ"..that language that has been sold off as well and put to the service of those who attack Iraq...Assyria by any other name.

...The United States targets Mormons who take their religion seriously..as they did the people in Waco they killed 90 of..NO country will allow that sort of thing. Saddam had nothing against Christianity...it was these rat bastards hiding behind Christ he wanted to destroy..before they destroyed him..he was far too kind and forbearing...Kanna proved him right.

...TO FREEDOM
While the world's elite opinion-makers rail vehemently against the current U.S. presence in Iraq, Kana appreciates what has been accomplished there.

"Since the liberation, everything has changed."

...you bet.

"The Iraqi people are free now," Kana proclaims. "For the first time in the history of Iraq — for the first time in 14 centuries — our neighbors, and the majority of people today, recognize us [Assyrian Christians], and acknowledge us. We are all together on the Governing Council, and the cabinet; our rights are guaranteed under the fundamental law" (referring to the provisional constitution signed on March 8).

...man oh man is this guy in for it. he too simply makes things up as he needs them.

Satisfaction with Operation Iraqi Freedom is not limited to the Assyrians. "The vast majority of Iraqis are very happy with the liberation," Kana says. "Maybe fewer than five percent today are unhappy — but that's because they were Saddam Hussein's people, or are fanatic extremists."

...Lookit the guy. the good thing, as always with these people, is that they appeal to the lowest, to the stupidest with the weakest mentalities..anyone who reads or thinks a little knows the guy is lying through his teeth..but, having lived their whole lives on WORDS and TALK, the boys are now ecstatic to be hearing these kinds of words...this kind of talk. It just sounds sooooo good...they don`t want to remove their heads from their arses to see if any of it is true.

What proves frustrating to Kana, and to others striving to rebuild Iraq, is the ill will shown by the media in obscuring these positives. "The media are very bad," Kana observes regretfully.

...Ah yes..it`s that "Liberal" Media again...when they see a simple truth, they shouldn`t mention it. It`s the messenger that`s the problem..the message is all hope and ice cream.

"This is mostly because they are the tools of Islamist fanatics; because they are unhappy with the democratic freedom process." It's not just al-Jazeera: "Even the Western media are very bad.

....Islamist Fanatics..the dirty Commies of today...with the same end result..years of near poverty for every American..we don`t even have a middle class any more.

They are trying to sell their product, so they keep exaggerating the bad spots. The media in America are not fair; they hide the liberation of Iraq, the restoration of public services — of hospitals, and schools. Nobody wants to speak about those achievements, or about the fundamental law, which was a very successful compromise and is the most liberal constitution of any Islamic Arab country."

..the schools and hospitals were all there and doing much much better. It is YOU boys who never wanted to discuss those things..and how good life was in Iraq..like it wont be for a long long time to come.

In a Washington indignant over the now-infamous Abu Ghraib images, Kana adds ruefully, "But they will speak about some simple problem, some crazy incident like with these prisoners in jail."

...no comment.

Over the Abu Ghraib scandal, Kana is unruffled. "Yeah, we condemn that — but it's certainly not the official or normal policy of American troops in Iraq. And Saddam did far worse than that every day, and no one stopped him!"

...right...we are just a bit better than Hitler, saddam, Genghis Khan...when we start comparing ourselves and come out "better" than these guys...well. Obviosuly Kanna doesn`t know the history of American military murder and abuses around the world.

Oddly enough, while those on Capitol Hill gasp that prisoner mistreatment will destroy America's reputation in Iraq and the rest of the world, Kana reports, "If Iraqis are upset with the American troops, it's mostly because they are very nice — too nice — with these criminals, dealing with them as prisoners of war. But they are not prisoners of war, they are criminals; they are killers. But Geneva Convention rules put pressure on the Americans to be nice, and to take good care of them."

...He`s burying himself..that`s the one thing they ALL do. They resolutely pull out a gun and despite your best efforts to stop them, proudly blow their own foot off.

"We had heard that there were rumors, bad rumors, about Americans raping Iraqi women in these prisons. So we sent the leader of the Iraqi Islamic party, Mohsen Hamid, to visit the prisoners. And he came back to the Governing Council and was a very positive witness. He is the closest to the Sunni sect of Iraq, and is the most trusted guy in the Sunni Islamic world — and he gave a very positive account, saying there is no big problem."

..these guys are PAID by America..they are as much in Bush`s pocket asd you can be...they`re going to criticize anything?

"But unfortunately these isolated bad spots — bad moves here or there by some crazy soldier — are exaggerated, and abused."

MORE THAN 50 PERCENT DONE
Kana is, of course, aware of the difficulties that lie ahead in his homeland, difficulties that need no exaggeration to loom large and daunting. There is, most immediately, a concern over what will happen after the June 30 handover deadline. There is fear that if U.N. Special Envoy Lakhdar Brahimi has his way, a weak and ineffectual government — possibly filled with ex-Baathists, and unable to withstand attempts to turn Iraq into a mullocracy — will be instituted. Brahimi's Francophilia is worrisome, too; in the wake of the Oil-for-Food scandal, Iraqis are rightfully wary of U.N. involvement in their country's rehabilitation.

...no but they LOVE America`s involvement and its strangulation of its children for 13 years.

Kana, however, remains optimistic; he urges Americans to remain optimistic too. The work of rehabilitating Iraq, he says, is "more than 50 percent done." For the U.S. and other coalition members to abandon it now would be tragic.

...the cry of all puppets who know damn well they have to beat it when their MASTERS leave. They said the same about Vietnam..."we`re ALMOST there"..only it was, "The light at the end of the tunnel"...you won`t be hearing THAT phrase yet.

The prospects for July 1 are good; Kana insists that once the Coalition moves out, foreign extremists will lose their strongest card. They will no longer "be able to move the emotions of simple people by saying they are fighting a holy war against the occupier," because, after June 30, there will be no occupier. He adds that the U.S. troops that do stay will be removed from danger, in safer camps. "When we need them, we will call on them, but they will no longer be easy targets in the streets."

...just what good Iraqis want to hear...The occupier is just a missle waway...do you suppose Kanna REALLY believes what he`s saying? Or was he picked for the job because he`s so fucking stupid and such a weasel?

"Plus," Kana explains, "we will be imposing Iraqi laws, and there will be no more Geneva Convention conditions. The death penalty will be back again; he who kills will be killed. And in my opinion, this will bring the violence down very much. So I call on public opinion to be more confident that, on July 1, things will change. This is a moral and psychological issue, not a numerical issue."

...right, killing always stops killing..that`s why we haven`t had any in 2000 years. Spread violence at all levels of society and watch peace and good fellowship spread...

This urging aside, Kana is not oblivious to the numbers. "We appreciate the losses of the United States, of those 700 victims — martyrs, we call them — who shed their blood on Iraqi soil. But compare the losses in one year of fighting terrorism to the roughly 3,000 people terrorism killed in America in two minutes. Think of the $84 billion lost in those two minutes, and compare that to the financial cost in Iraq. You have to make these comparisons, and then choose whether to fight the terrorists in the Middle East, and keep yourselves safe, or to fight terrorism here, in your home."

...he got that right from Bush.

THE PRICE OF FREEDOM
If it seems odd that an Iraqi would be more attuned to what America stands to lose should the terrorists win than many Americans are, perhaps it's because he faces terrorist brutality every day, and has for most of his life.

Kana began his career as a dissident in 1970, during his last year of secondary school in Kirkuk. "Our people had always been persecuted, for being Assyrians and for being Christians. But when I read the Baath-party philosophy, I saw that they were even worse," Kana explains. In 1976 the Baathist regime began destroying Assyrian villages and churches, and on April 12, 1979, Kana and his fellow dissenters established the Assyiran Democratic Movement to combat Saddam's aggression.

...they were Christians using the Church to teach sedition..the idea that the land was theirs..all but swending a telegram to the CIA that "we are available". Anyone would have done what Saddam did. In the 70s the United States government targetted Native Americans...Black Americans...Student Americans, infiltrating, jailing and killing many...anyone who opposed this democractic in any way..and its only gotten worse. Tell us about government repression Kanna.

"We founded this movement in order to push for peace, democracy, and freedom in Iraq; for recognition of our existence in Iraq, and for the rights of Christians in Iraq." In 1980, the ADM began negotiations with other opposition movements — democrats, Communists, Christian groups — and prepared to unite in the mountains to fight Saddam Hussein. They launched their opposition in 1982, sending rebels to the northern part of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war.

...pure bullshit.

Saddam, of course, struck back. On July 14, 1984, the Baathist regime attacked the ADM's bases in Baghdad, arresting over 150 members of the movement. "I was saved by the wife of a friend who was killed by Saddam. I had to flee," Kana recounts. "Of the 150 people they arrested, 22 of them were sentenced to life imprisonment by Saddam. Four of us were sentenced to death. Three were killed, and I was sentenced to death in absentia in November of '84." With a look of wistful sadness, Kana adds that he recently visited the graves of his executed comrades.

...happens all the time. You have no "Christian" rights in Iraq. You have obligations as citizens of Iraq..you want change..you work for it..like Black Amwericans did for years..who suffered a lot more than you ever did...but rhey NEVER called on another country to attack America to "guarantee" their rights as Black African Americans. There is no way to brush it aside..you Christians are traitors to the land...and any Muslim government that won`t kiss America`s ass has to get you people OUT of the country one way or the other..it is YOU people who don`t allow peace to remain.

"That's why we have continued our struggle since 1984 until this moment, nonstop — for 20 years."

The struggle is a dangerous one. Being a member of the Governing Council is no secure job — two have now been assassinated. Kana is married, and has three children; while they are pleased with his work, "they are at risk all the time. I am at risk all the time. But this is the price of freedom."

...so good of you to help make so many dead so you can be "free".

To Kana, it's a price well worth paying. Is it a sacrifice he will continue to make, exposing himself in such a public capacity, once the Governing Council is disbanded? "It is not necessary for me to be in an official position, necessarily. What is necessary is for our community to be represented, and for there to be no more persecution, no more apartheid policies against us because of our ethnicity or religion. This is what's most important to me; not a position. After all, I'm tired! I've spent 34 years fighting this crazy guy, and these crazy criminals. But if it's necessary, I'll keep going."

Apartheid...he uses that same dictionary. When the foreign minister of an Islamic country is Christians and the head of the Museums is Christian..it`s hardly Apartheid. Any Christians who would abide by Iraq law..just as in America Muslims must abide by the law of the land..has equal rights. Talk a lot in Amemrica about your special rights as a Muslim and you may have problems. Hell, they have to fight JUST to be able to pray!

Though the fight has been long and exhausting, it has not been without its rewards. Kana relates, "A few days ago, in Chicago, I was given a present. It was a picture of me, with my friends, during our last year in high school and our first at university, when we began our struggle against Saddam. The photograph was taken on March 9, 1970. They then presented to me a second picture: the photograph that appeared in the Chicago Tribune, and other papers, on March 9, 2004 — a picture of me raising the new constitution of Iraq, exactly 34 years later."

...we are not amused.

Kana wants Americans — and people the world over — to keep these rewards in mind when processing the daily news out of Iraq. He cautions election-year bickerers: "...[T]he challenge in Iraq is not a challenge for Republicans, or for Democrats. If we don't stand united, the terrorists will win. You will have to prepare yourselves here, at home, to have more September 11ths, and that will be a tragedy. This is not a challenge for President Bush: It is a challenge for all free and democratic people, not only in America, but in the world, together."

...cocksucker.
And that`s the kindest thing to call him.

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