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The same people who are now giving advises about what to do are the same astute people who told us a year ago peace and freedom was coming to Iraq and this was OUR golden opportunity so, "let`s all untitty"...halfway through the year we were, "almost there"...so there were more urgent and even frantic calls to UNTITTY NOW goddamn you!!!

A year later and everybody is dying...bullets hit Christians as easily as Muslims only now the Muslims are REALLY dragging Christians out and shooting them...so it`s more imperative than ever that we UNTITTY. The boys of course still won`t openly acknowledge the number of Christians being killed by Christians over there and keep a hopeful eye out for rising death tolls that can be pinned on Muslims. In this post we get even more sage advice about the need to UNTITTY before it`s too late and this "golden opportunity" to be more hated as Christians than we EVER were slips past us...we were never hated as Assyrians..why? When have Assyrians attacked Iraq?

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Our National Strategy

Posted By: Alfred Alkhas <alkalf@excite.com> (158.96.103.33)
Date: Thursday, 8 April 2004, at 3:07 p.m.

Dear All,

The current political situation in Iraq is complete chaos or disorder and is painting a very dark picture for the coming future.

...Geez...that must have come as a total surprise...even to you.

The agreements between various Iraqi parties and factions are so fragile that they seem to collapse anytime. Any observer can easily conclude that, in the absence of any clear plans, the daily events in Iraq are driving the political process and the latest turmoil is a very dangerous sign of what could happen.

...how observant.

There are no convincing plans from either side (IGC or CPA) that are able address the complete process of the promised transition of power by June 30th. The only possible solution that seems to be agreeable by Iraqis at this time is to expand the CGI to include other Iraqi factions but even this solution does not give any clear answers to would how the additional members be selected or to how the transitional government will be composed.

...there IS no solution to the Iraqi "problem", there`s a solution to America`s "problem" with Iraq. The problem was that the entire MidEast was on the verge of using its wealth to buy up and into Western corporate interests and also impact the US and other Western economies too directly by regulating oil production and pricing and yes even embargoes..in other words be free and liberated and deal in the Open Market..and this started it all...THAT is the "problem". What you see as the problem now is in reality the solution to that problem...chaos in the oil fields and the pediatric wards is the solution to the problem...NOT stability and peace.

The other important issue is our position in all this instability.

...I would say that when it`s unstable over there you`re going to be unstable too...like when bullets fly, some of them are going to hit you...

We have more than 20 organizations and political parties and each one of them is singing its own song and every one is objecting on everything and publishing declarations and submitting letters here and there just for the sake of being recognized as a valid voice!

...add yours. This was all there ever was..all there ever has been and all that will ever be. You left Ashur and then split up among at least 20 sects and denominations, count them. Your "political" fronts are just that...a mask to cover your denominations...so it should come as no surprise that there are 20 of them and each is insisting that IT and it alone is the true version of Christ..excuse me, the REAL political voice of the religious aspirations of...sorry..of the National Agenda and Historical Rights of the Christ...pardon..of the Assyrian Nation.

In other words, nobody has presented any alternatives that are able to address the real problems and provide clear and real solutions.

...no...and they haven`t been able to do it for 2000 years either..and they can`t do it when there are no "enemies" around, like in Ceres and Turlock or Chicago..where they attack each other and see each other as the enemy. If you give up your soul..or exchange it for a better deal...it`s like turning your parents in for better ones...or trading your children to the orphanage for prettier ones...it doesn`t work.

We did not see any plans that are able to deal with current hot issues in Iraq nor we have seen any strategies for the future. As a matter of fact, our political parties proved without any doubts that they lack any harmony or consistency in dealing with events.

...that`s because they aren`t political parties..they are religious sects pretending to be political parties..and the same things you`ve been fighting over for 100 years and more are still there and will always be there...you simply call being Christian, "Assyrian"...you call your sects "politics"...and that actually convinces you that anything has changed...and then you "wonder" why you`re arguing. As Ibn Saud said..in religious matters there is no compromise...whereas politics is the ART of compromise...in religious wars and arguments you either have to kill everyone or drown everyone out..and who can allow their version of the TRUE god to be drowned out? And who will compromise where their dearest lunacies are concerned..the ones they feel they MUST cling to in all their details or else no Heaven? Who will compromise on heaven? You boys haven`t the slightest notion of what politics are...or of anything else for that matter because your ENTIRE being rests on a religious squabble and lie...that being Assyrian is the SAME AS being Christians..well, go on then..reap the rewards that come from it.

These are the possible scenarios of how could current events turnout in Iraq:

...since you all predicted pie in the sky and sweet times BEFORE the war...I doubt there`s much more thought, or even honesty, in your insights now.

1. Allies use extreme force to regain control,

...see, either you guys are the biggest liars in the world or the greatest dummies. When did the Allies HAVE control?

in which case will bring the whole country under real occupation along with imposing a strong military government and then we must forget everything about democracy and fancy dreams.

...when the amount of lies that were put out there were countenanced and then later brushed aside and the truth deemed inconsequential...and when the invading force is being led by an un-deomocratically appointed president...and when the president has oil interests and Iraq has oil...and when NO ONE among you questions any of this...do you REALLY believe peace and freedom and democracy are possible let alone intended?

2. All Iraqi factions restore to rationale and come to some sort of permanent agreement, which is very doubtful, at least in the near future.

..if there was any danger of that happening there`d be more soldiers on the ground making sure it didn`t.

3. Civil war could be imminent between all Iraqi factions should the target date is reached by June 30th without any solid agreement in place.

...go ahead, reach the target date and watch that many more human targets fall..don`t you get it? This IS the plan..this WAS the expected outcome!

4. Lose control on the whole country and the subsequent emerge of three independent regions.

...no no you don`t...you will NOT get an "Assyria" out of this!

The questions that still remain are:

Where do we fit in this picture?

...where you always did...a Christian minority that isn`t fooling anyone..anyone that counts...that they are the only or ANY Assyrians.

What are our options should Iraq be divided?

...get divided some more..so what else is new?

What is our strategy should Kurds declare their independence?

...you have none..it doesn`t concern you. During the Sanctions they allowed you five seats in their parliament...something you boys would never have done. It`s up to them really...it`s up to everyone and ANYONE but you...you have your own enemies, each other, to battle. It`s always been others who`ve managed to split you people up, get your fingers from off of each other`s throats and impose some measure of peace...by force..on your own you boys can`t do diddly...there ARE no Muslims enemies in America..but there might just as well have been for you all call each others Traitors and Arabs and Muslim Lovers and Enemies anyway.

What is our plan should Islamic fundamentalists gain control in Iraq?

...run. Like you always do. If they were as terrible as Petey says they were..they`re gonna be a WHOLE lot more awful now...but only because you asked for it.

Obviously, the previous months proved without doubts that by adhering to what our parties are doing now will not solve our current problems nor will it serve our purpose on the long run. We must admit that our organizations mishandled the situation from the beginning, and that is fine, because we lack the experience and the adequate leadership and … and.

...they can`t plan a party in Chicago...they`re gonna do anything in Iraq? Now?

I think and strongly recommend that we need to have solid plan in place and long term strategy that would eventually secure our people in Iraq and support reinstating our national rights as well.

...more squat chasing diddly. I think I should be a famous sculptor...now what?

Putting aside our disagreements and calling for a national conference to include every acting political and non-political body to discuss our situation and our options on the ground as well as our future strategy is the only way we have.

...BRILLIANT!!! Why didn`t they think of that?

We must start an international campaign to mount up all types of support that we need. We must bring our case to the UN and to all international human rights organizations.

...they aren`t interested...with an African at the helm the UN stood by while a million African Christians were murdered by African Christians..the UN began its career by stealing Palestinian land...the UN stood by while 500,000 were starved to death...the UN knew there were no WMDs in Iraq..everyone knew it. What signs do you see that the UN has EVER intervened...and especially on the flimsy grounds you have. What you want is to HAVE such a meeting and have it untitty...you know and could care less that nothing will come of it, that your "calls for justice will go unheeded"...but that`s not the point, being effective has NEVER been the point..putting on the SHOW is the entire point with you people. That and claiming the most empty headed followers.

...You are being treated as you deserve for behaving the way you have...the UN has no grounds to intervene..they wouldn`t even hear you out...it`s been tried before. All people have to do is scratch the surface, the FRONT you boys have and they realize quickly enough the truth of you...you are a bunch of pig-ignorant opportunists lying to your own people in order to get a hand up on the next sect..and whichever one of you can get some official recogniton as the ASSYRIANS will win this silly war you have among each other...

We must commence genuine and effective efforts in every country that we have potential presence and create strong support for our case from the governments and the people of those countries.

...we know all about it..people must join their untitties to yours..that`s what you all want.

We must start acting united and plot our plans and build our strategies that are independent of current events and provide permanent solutions.

...sure, why should you bother yourselves with "current events"...just go off and define them for yourselves...use that dictionary Hanna keeps handy for when words wont do what you want them to. No need to trouble yourselves with events..make them up! That`s the best way to reach "permanent solutions"...base them on your own fantasies..like the one that says you are Assyrians in the first place..THAT`s a good one and it`s been a GREAT permanent solution..as it will lead to your own demise.."here Lie the Christians who said they were Assyrians"...they were laughed to death.

We must show and prove to the world that we deserve to be the real descendants of those great ancestors.

...you are..you have been. You`ve shown anyone who is objective about it, or Assyrian, that you are the DIRECT descendants of the Battling Mars...the Christian sects that have been tearing at each other and the social fabric of BetNahrain for centuries. There`s never been any doubt about that.

Khaya Umta Atoureta
Alfred.

...indeed. The sooner the last of you leave the sooner that can happen. Saddam knew what he was doing.

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