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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Sunday, March 7 2004, 11:28:55 (EST)
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Peter says it's important to have netiquette...more important than content...if it comes down to a choice between the two. Kakovitch apparently kept writing in caps...for which Peter warned him and then banned him. How awful can caps be? In an effort to have a respectful place...a polite space...a bland place too...a grown man has to be banned for writing in caps? What would Saddam do differently?

Peter doesn't have to read Kakovitch if he finds it so irritating. No one else complained. Why should it matter to Peter how an adult male, older than himself, uses the keyboard? If he feels compelled to read him then one would think it was because he was interested..but not interested enough to overlook the size of the letters?

Or, being a confirmed liar as Peter is, does the truth lie somewhere else... probably in Kakovitch's daring to question one faction over another, specifically the faction Peter obvously favors...that old attempt to FORCE unity that people resent and fight against which always results in everyone feeling betrayed by someone else. You can't get to where these guys claim they want to go in these ways..through these heavy-handed and ham-fisted methods...you get instead to the kind of stifling atmosphere they all claim they ran from and are so glad to be free of. Just what do they understand of America anyway...or Democracy and Free Speech? Not much...that becomes more and more and painfully and embarrassingly clear...and it's only getting worse.

Okay...so I was vulgar and profane when I burst onto the scene...so? After having read a few days and seeing how much they all thought of themselves I wanted to see what they were made of...would they shrug off the silly fireworks and dig into the meat of the issues...or get hung up on niceties, taking the least excuse to jump out of their skin and lock the door? After what happened to Kakovitch is there any doubt that substance...where it dares show itself...takes a back seat to how things appear and that appearances are so damn important that anything to the contrary must not even be raised in public...thereby creating an unusual and unnatural place where there is to be no discord, where things LOOK nice...apparently...and among THESE people too!

"You must not question me, or else"...is all it amounts to.

By contrast, at our thingie, we're eager to be questioned and challenged and if I'm a bit rough, there's Tiglath and Jeff and Kris and dib and a bright Kikhwa and probably many more who'd enjoy getting into the fray and are very gentle and considerate though every bit as tough...and when would we tell people..."you must not disagree". This isn't blowing our horn or trying to be more popular and the rest of that juvenile stuff...it's because we care for the intellectual climate in Assyria and if it doesn't improve by leaps and bounds, and quickly too...we're doomed to rattle off demands to each other and the wall forever because we have not the temperament or equipment to go out THERE...where the fate of people and nations is decided...where we're still getting kicked from pillar to post while "protesting".

What's funny is this notion that by disagreeing you're putting them down...that if you hold to your beliefs in the face of their weak opposition, you're refusing to be flexible...which to them means you must change over to their point of view or you're being contrary and argumentative...when you're just not convinced, like maybe when you refuse to budge from Christ even though it will cost you your children's lives and your own self-respect??? Is that the ONLY time Assyrians are ever to show some pluck and determination in the face of opposition, when their children are to be slaughtered for a Jew religion?...and why does everyone HAVE to agree to march in lock-step/goose-step in the same direction? You can't even expect that of children in a playground...but adults designing a democratic country???

In the guise of being polite...with a well-mannerd front...those Friggin Fronts again...what Peter has really done is issue a gross insult to all the people who post at his own site declaring in bold print, for the world to see, that they are not fit or capabale to decide such simple things for themselves, not even in something so trite and vapid as what size font you use...and when you treat people like this..they oblige. Which is exactly what's happening to them as they become increasingly shrill without purpose or direction, making one idiotic "demands" after another. They never got over being raised in such an atmosphere themselves and simplistically think that when they are free to engage in their own silliness, so long as they're polite about it...they are FREE...and they get sillier and sillier as a result.

They grew up and spent their formative years where things are black or white...where there are clearly defined god guys and bad guys, no shadings or nuances but only simplistic definitions of right and wrong based on nothing more substantial than who holds the whip, or mic, or your dic in hand...and, most of all..."if you aren't with me, then you're against me"...in other words they grew up children and act accordingly. It's a mentality that feels "picked upon" a lot when it's just immature and unrefined and can't tolerate being crossed or vexed because Mama was always so obliging and easy to impress, why can't YOU be.

And when that mentality stations itself at the door and weilds the paddle...what can you expect from those who knuckle under to this kind of treatment in order to enter? They will be "nice"...but only because they're afraid to get spanked. And being that way...what can you hope to gain from them? This is the best we have to offer each other and the world? This is Assyrian? Or have these people just managed to disgust and turn away the best among us...and if they have...were there EVER any "best" among us? If you run from nothing...what are YOU?

We may not be polite all the time...but we allow people to be people...if we misbehave, we allow others to do so as well...if we're harsh...you can be too...if I make fun of you...make fun of me...you can be whatever you want...it's up to you. Be an ass...be an Assyrian...preach Christian dogma or Muslim or Jew or none at all. The one thing we won't tolerate is mamby-pamby stuff and outright attempts to play silly games with us...we INSIST you try to fry us intellectually with each and every post...barring that, at least be entertaining or informative and never, ever polite...unless you prefer it that way yourself. Which sounds more like the way the world works to you? Which prepares you to deal with that world on it's own terms...which is the way it's gonna be no matter HOW many books you self-publish.

Have none of them realised that the world is a pretty rude place? Did all those unjustified massacres and endless cruelties they supposedly suffered teach them nothing? I don't mean about whining and demanding reparations from SOMEBODY...I mean about how you have to toughen up...get stronger than the competition...prepare yourself for the long haul...the rough ride.

We've gone out of our way to engage these people...not to cuss and spit, but to challenge their ideas and plans and interpretatons..and in almost every instance they've headed for those hills of theirs. We've dragged them over and talked back to them anyway...we've sneaked onto their forums and asked questions, poked fun, laughed out loud, and taken whatever we dished out...you know, "People" stuff...stuff you'd think would be tolerated in a democracy such as they envision for Iraq...but not anywhere else, I guess.

You can't treat people like boisterous brats and not expect them to act accordingly...that's why we treat people as capable adults...and those who know they don't cut it take themselves away...and some want to do away with this kind of option entirely...they insist on ONLY behaving like they had finns.

Dear XXXX...I must be one of the few people in your life you couldn't seduce...and I don't mean with naughty stuff either...I mean with anything that wasn't genuine or honest. You know damn well you acted in a mean-spirited way and the best thing for it, even for your own sake, is to let you win...but look what you had to do to win one. Try to do better next time...you can.

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