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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Wednesday, February 11 2004, 21:22:26 (EST)
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Truth then, is not an absolute; it has no value in itself.

...you are speaking from a comfortable, well fed place. You and I can afford to have these discussions...the parents of 500,000 Assyrian children are still wondering what hit them...why the murder of their children was necessary..why America, an avowedly Christian nation, has a Christian general who talks about his god being bigger than their god and uses that as a justification to commit murder. In college, before I ran screaming in the night...hopped on my Beezer and raced up the coast...I used to overhear these kinds of conversations from Freshmen who'd just learned to walk and talk...it is bullshit all...until you've lived it.

I believe, that is the reason Pontius Pilate asked Jesus Christ the question, “What is Truth?” The only way to escape the chaos of a relativistic Universe where nothing is true in itself, is if that Truth actually exists, to become united with it (Christ the Vine, Mankind the Branches).

...never mind the vines and Bushes...there is nothing relative here at all..it is crystal clear...benefitting from the execution of an innocent man is wrong..period...and eating his body and drinking his blood is also wrong..these have all been condemned by ever sane society for 2000 years at least...nothing chaotically relativistic about it.

> Today the sheer complexity that surrounds, our lives, puts most people in a constant state of overload. The secular Church of Psychiatry may find this very lucrative, but it still hasn’t succeeded in reducing the stress levels between people or nations. After you take all of this into consideration, you then must reduce it all down to one hard and lonely fact, namely, that every life is a series of personal choices that each of us faces alone. The significance of this fact is that no one else can assume responsibility for our actions. Others, can, and often do, either help or hurt us in that process, but the undeniable truth is that, we live in a society today that has an excuse for everything… thank you Church of Psychiatry, ala Freud et al. Still, whether we are aware of our sole responsibility for our actions, or not, and most us aren’t, we will always remain the sole owners of our actions.

...no. Religion doesn't deal in responsibillity...I wish it did. It deals in Guilt...a very different animal. You can buy your way out of Guilt...you can't avoid responsibillity...unless you believe some god made you...and badly too..but what can you do about it?

While Jesus Christ gave us the example of hard choices, most of us prefer the easy choices.

...he did no such thing. If he was a god then the whole thing was a sham...a trick. For a god to play at human for three days of suffering, knowing all the while that he's going to get up and fly to heaven and live in bliss forever is like Donald Trump putting on rags for a day and "teaching" us about the hard path of poverty and the virtues it inspires..then climbing the elevator back to his Trump Towers in the sky. It is an absurd charade.

...there are people who refused to buy this nonsense whom the Church tortured and put to death and still they kept their honor...and they KNEW they weren't getting up after and flying anywhere. THAT is courage.

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First Installment The Nineveh Kid - Wednesday, February 11 2004, 4:34:33 (EST)
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