The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum

=> why is it...

Posted by parhad (Guest) - Tuesday, April 13 2004, 8:56:47 (EDT)
from 148.233.93.139 - customer-148-233-93-139.uninet-ide.com.mx

Mexico -

Windows XP -

Internet Explorer
Website:
Website title:

...that mostly people like the Volcano and the rest of them are proud to be Assyrian and mouth off about their rights and being indigenous and the only the great Assyrians? How come everybody else with enough sense to be embarrassed stays away from all of this National Nonsense? Makes you wonder if you have to be a fool first in order to be an Assyrain...a Christian one at least.

Here`s the Volcano giving his advises...

The American Task in Iraq must be

Posted By: The Assyrian Volcano / Borcana Ashuraya (adsl-68-23-35-46.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net)
Date: Monday, 12 April 2004, at 9:33 p.m.

Today the situation in Iraq is very dangerous and critical, people are dying and Americans are paying a heavy price for their mismanagement.

...you all said it would be easy and wonderful and liberating. Is this insight of yours the basis of the following advises? Americans aren`t mismanaging anything..there is no other way to manage...people don`t like being denied food and clean water, they don`t appreciate being bombed from the sky for 13 years, they aren`t happy to be invaded with weapons...they don`t care how smiling and benign and compassionate the attacker...it still gets them killed. They don`t appreciate being subdued and pacified..the Nazis didn`t mismanage anywhere either... that`s how you manage murder and occupation..they`re doing a great job and getting just what you get. It was your fantasy and their lies that led you to expect people to meet the Americans as liberators...Saddam had his stooges and America has its own...nobody likes a stooge for long.

As it seems to me the Iraqi people lost the credibility in the coalition forces after one year of the so-called liberation , the situation is not that encouraging and especially to the Sunni people who are depriving for a better future,

...name the last time a nation made war on another to "improve the lives" of any of the people there? You believed horseshit and are complaining now of the smell...if you admit America`s real reason then you have no problem understanding what`s happening...if you believed your own fairy tales then I`m sure this is "puzzling".

while others and especially the Qurds who are the American spoilers and got the LION'S share by grabbing north of Iraq / ASSYRIA as their homeland, keep in mind that they are:
> Outsiders and eusurpers and their population is not more than 25% of the Iraqi population.

...To whom are you complaining? Do you still think the United States will rectify this "injustice"? You want to complain to Occupiers about Usurpers?

> Keep in mind the Qurds numbers in Turkey are close to 12 Million and in Iran close to 8 Million, where don't have any rights but considered Turks and Iranians.

...also keep in mind that the Iraqis were also depreived of their right to a secure border, to not be interfered with when they have bothered no one...when you cheer as the people you don`t like get trashed...you open the door to your own trashing next...if that`s all the basis there is for trashing people..they are not "liked"...or they have something you want..then Law and Justice have been swept aside...it`s too late now to demand justice and fair play...if the Iraqi people didn`t get it why should anyone else?

In order to restore peace and tranquility in the ciuntry ,I think the Americans should take the following steps:

...There was peace and tranquility in the country before the United States started meddling there in the first place..none of the random violence and the pacification was ever done by Saddam..not till he too fell for American promises...the Americans no more want peace and tranquility in Iraq than they want it in Israel and Palestine...or wanted it in Iran or Afghanistan. The situation you now find deplorable is what they wanted and worked for...you however still think they came to bring peace and tranquility...the last thing they want is this kind of advice.

1- A declaration of amnesty for those who served the Ba'ath regime , except those who committed crimes.

...what are crimes? When it`s accetable policy to starve children and deny basic health care and clean water and food and medicine and then to lie in order to wage war against a civilian population...when the criminals who did all this now make the rules and laws...when the American crimes far outweight the Baath crimes...who will play judge?

2- The Iraqi army who was desolved and disappeared after the fall of the regime should be paid from that time until now.

...go ahead...

3- A new interim constitution to be written by considering IRAQ - country as one sovereign unit.

...it was... only the United States didn`t treat it as one. You don`t wage unilateral war on sovereign nations...you don`t ignore their borders. Iraq did nothing to the United States and got clobbered anyway because the oily people wanted the oil..that`s all...not to liberate it or anything else. If that`s the new way the game is played...if all crimes are justifiable by kanting phrases everyone knows are hollow...then what?

4- Iraq , should CONSTITUTE of three provinces and they are ASSYRIA in the North , Babylon in the middle and Sumer in the south.

...go blow some more smoke.

5- The government should DISARM all kinds of melitia and the first should be the Qurds.

...when all you have to do in life is add sugar to your tea, it must seem a simple thing to disarm millitias.

6- The U.S. should be the only power which will direct the daily business until the Iraqi people will be able to govern by themselves.

...the Iraqi people were governing themselves...there may be countries that don`t like the way the Americans govern themselves..that a religious extremist seized power illegally..that doesn`t give them the right to come rule America until the American people can assert themselves once again.

7- The U.S. , should ask the U.N. to send a person to be in the place of Mr. Paul Bremer and such person should be assigned by the U.N. Secretary General. In taking such step Iraq will be considered under the U.N. control and not under the American occupation as it is considered by the majority of Iraqis.

...that`s window dressing..everyone knows who owns the UN. The Americans didn`t listen to the UN when it told them there were no WMDs...what credibility do you think the UN has anywhere? The United States co-opted the UN like it does everything else..through money. They illegally witheld their dues for several years on trumped up charges that the UN was Evil...until the UN realized it had just beed purchsed...out in the open...either that or close up and go home..they caved in, America paid its billions, taken from its citizens and now tells the UN what to do.

8- The freedom of establishing political parties should be basid on one important element and that is , Unity of the land is secured and respected and no political parties will be basid on religious grounds.

...your own political parties...clubs rather, are based on religious grounds...so is the Republican wing that gave us George...why can`t the Iraqis do the same?

Ashur Beth-Shlimon
________________________
12 Nissan, 6754(Assyrian ) and 12 April 2004

...you aren`t Assyrian...you`re a Christian trying to distinguish yourself by claiming descent from people you know nothing of. By all means..go out there and get some attention..get in the limelight so everyone can hear these ridiculous claims..their laughter should finish you off.

---------------------

- BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

The full topic:
No replies.

Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/vnd.ms-excel, applicatio...
Accept-encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-language: es-mx
Cache-control: no-cache
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-length: 8196
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Cookie: *hidded*
Host: www.insideassyria.com
Referer: http://www.insideassyria.com/rkvsf/rkvsf_core.php?.0INq.
User-agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; MSN 6.1; MSNbMSFT; MSNmes-mx; MSNc00; v5m)