The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum

=> zindalite

Posted by parhad (Guest) - Saturday, April 17 2004, 20:58:53 (EDT)
from 200.94.234.12 - 200.94.234.12 -

Windows XP -

Internet Explorer
Website:
Website title:

I haven`t read that thing in two years and more...it depresses me to see the moronic editorial tone and the content..save for a few challenging thinkers...ahem...by people we know and esteem...but for the most part it hasn`t changed and I don`t see where it could.

You have people talking they know not what..this one is "great"..that meeting was "historical"..these are "momenteous times"...this gaggle of hissing and spitting people is a Nation..and not only that but a "Great" nation...and all of them are obviously lineal descendants of the ancient Assyrians whom they resemble as much as zinda does a magazine.

It`s so fucking humiliating...so silly...so much what it isn`t...so far from where they all claim they are..and closing in on a Nation again that will take its place and blah and blah some more. They`ll never tire of this because it`s all so damn easy..it`s such a masturbatory delight that these people have forgotten the difference between jerking off and love-making..indeed they prefer masturbating...think it`s a sign of their Greatness that they find it so easy to "talk"..to Demand and pass judgement...so damn easy...that they lose patience with countries for not getting it right as easily as they manage to..well just SAY it damn it..that`s all you have to do...where`s the problem?

Here`s a good example...

Political Bureau
Bet-Nahrain National Quest
April, 2004

...that means three guys who go to the same church..in fact you`d be forgiven for thinking Zinda was a branch of Christianity...

Autonomous Rule for the Chaldo-Assyrian People in Iraq

...if anyone saw, "Autonomous Rule For The Choctaws in Wyoming"...it wouldn`t appear any sillier than this...

We are pleased to report that Bet-Nahrain National Quest convened a congress in March, 2004, in Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A.

...they are ALWAYS pleased with themselves for calling meetings...no one pleases easier.

During this meeting, our members discussed the proposed agenda freely and in the spirit of democracy. Several resolutions were adopted to address the political reality in Iraq.

...democracy is a foreign concept to these people..they think it means THEIR turn to play Tyrant and dictator.

The Chaldo-Assyrian people struggled side by side with all Iraqi patriotic forces against the now-deposed dictatorial regime.

...they did no such thing..if anything they struggled to bring this inhumane and illegal war to Iraq...and are at their old stand "helping" Christian occupiers from the West kill their own people.

Much was sacrificed in the cause of national liberation, for the regime of Saddam Hussein used torture, suppression and military action to stop the march of the Iraqi people toward freedom, prosperity and a democratic system of government in a new Iraq.

...bullshit. Saddam took power in large part because presidents didn`t last a year and there was a revolving door at Government House...the First and Second World Wars...British Occupation, in which these same cocksuckers tried their best to "play a part" and the West`s machinations took their toll. In the last years of his rule Iraq prospered and advanced...and did too much of it...THAT was the state of affairs...torture, murder, blinded women..random shootings and a civillian uprising is the gift that these American and their stooges brought with them. The whole world knows the United States loves nothing more than ruthless dictators who do its bidding..loves them all the more because they`re that much easier to get rid of when time serves...because who weeps for them?

Although the old regime is gone, we realize that the road ahead is long and difficult. But we are hopeful for the future.

...the "old regime" hasn`t gone anywhere...the regime was made of Iraqi people..Muslim Assyrians all who are fighting what they rightly perceive as their real tormentors..the uprising America tried to force into being against Saddam by killing the children of parents for 13 years has finally come about and the Iraqi people know who was responsible and who to aim at.

Accordingly, Bet-Nahrain National Quest passed the following resolutions to support Iraq through the difficulties ahead:

...fuck you and your support..you aren`t supporting anyone in Iraq...you`re kissing the same white ass you did every other time the West dangled this assinine idea before you that you were soon to get YOUR country...

Uphold the territorial integrity of Iraq. Support a multi-party system and a peaceful transfer of political authority so the Iraqi people can establish civic institutions and create a new and lasting constitution that gives Iraqi citizens basic rights and freedoms. Such a constitution would be the foundation on which a society based on the rule of law can stand. Individual freedom must be beyond compromise.

...they had that already. The United States had one too...all Freedom and Liberty is under attack. In the United States still Black people are murderd and a short while ago they were lynched with impunity and governors stood on university steps with police at their backs to deny entry, which the Law and the president authorized, for Black men and women to receive an equal education..these ar difficulties people work through..rough spots and all..you don`t ATTACK and kill people to "improve" their frredom and teach them the virtues of demcoracy...Bush wasn`t democratically elected...

Support the declarations and resolutions of the Chaldo-Assyrian congress of Baghdad held in November of 2003.

...yoù`ll support anything that gets you your neighbor`s house for free...

Adopt our unified name, because Chaldeans and Assyrians are one people.

...no..they are squabbling branches of one religion torn and fractured and bloody and beastial...they are NOT one people..they are religions...you are using these names as yet another Front in hopes of lending historical and national meaning to sects and denominations..everyone knows it...everyone pats you on your pointy heads and lets you convene and re-convene and meet till you`re blue in the face..and they all ignore you as you deserve to be.

Chaldo-Assyrians, the original inhabitants of Mesopotamia, are an integral and inseparable part of the Iraqi people.

...not as Christians...the people of Iraq are ALL descendent form ALL the people who ever lived there...under whatever name and religion..you are NOT entitled to use those names to designate a branch of your various pissant churches...everyone who has any sense knoes it..that`s why you still do it.

Support the Iraqi Governing Council and honor its efforts in creating a new Iraq.

...sure...you guys supported the British too till they got what they wanted and left..ever hear of Simele? If you boys "Never forget"...so don^t others...your treachery will be remembered for a long long time and I hope this time they finally drive you people out...so the Assyrians of Iraq...the Iraqi PEOPLE can build their country back and continue from the place they`d achieved before America decided it was time send them all to hell..and create this Golden Opprtunity for you!

Honor the new interim constitution. This vital document represents the national will of the Iraqi people and embodies their hopes for freedom, human rights and democracy at this moment in their country’s history.

...no it doesn`t. They were working for these things and then fearfully hoping the Americans would leave them alone to continue on that path. The document you mention is drafted in Washington and doesn`t represent anything more than a rule imposed by strangers with the few finks and rat bastard crooks they brought in for the occasion..you people have a knack for rushing to a sinking ship before it goes under without you..why do you suppose that is?

The interim constitution will serve Iraq well until a permanent constitution can bring deeper peace and greater stability to all of Iraq’s people.
Further, the Chaldo-Assyrian people will strive to achieve the following:

...no it will not. If there was any danger of its doing that, Bremmer would scrap it..the Iraqi people are meant to work the oil wells..that`s all...and fight among themselves and weaken the entire region so the United States can make more gains till the oil fields are drained..and you will benefit from it not at all...quite the opposite..your grandchildren will rue the day you ever fell for this bullshit yet again.

Rebuild our villages so that their original inhabitants can return to their homes.

...try it. set up the same churches where idiot priests will fill the heads of children with visions of their glory days..when they were pagans but then saw the light and became Christian and therefore deserve MORE than the nothing you`ll get this time around..go ahead, hold meetings were Jajo will tell Kako that they should go right downtown and demand those hills over there..and see if you don`t wind up in jail or shot in the head with even greater frequency and delight because by then the Muslim Assyrians will know even better who waits in the wings to profit from this nonsense of yours..and those churches will be razed again and you`ll be coming for handouts again and blaming everyone else BUT your own church for this folly. If you think this sort of illegal war makes people calm and tractable look at the Palestinians who are finally willing to strap bombs to their bodies,...they were brought to this point by the Americans and their Israeli dogs...do you really think Iraq will be "pacified"..except to have more voices stilled through murder and torture?

Form self-administration units where Chaldo-Assyrians live in accordance with 1954 statistics.

...never happen..ask the Palestinians..you leave..you`re GONE. No one is going to take away the lands of the people living there now because you ran...that`s just the way it works fella...never happen and no one wants you back either...and you aren`t going anyway.

Establish the Chaldo-Assyrian name in the future constitution as one of the primary and historic peoples of Iraqi society.

...also never happen..this is your fantasy...no one else buys any part of it..you can use it all you want..you can call each other French or Martians...but no one is going to allow you to go on record as the ONLY people of that name..if they do it will be a sign to you that you`ve been permanently shifted to the funny farm in people`s minds and you can rave there all you want.

Establish our cultural rights and our Syriac language in the future constitution.

...you mean teach sedition in the language of Christ...never happen also...or the language will be taught by real teachers and not in your garage Madrassas...you people have done nothing with this dear friggin language of Christ you`re so proud of..you have no culture and no need for cultural rights...everywhere in the world you`ve blended in gleefully because it was Christian..which is your entire orientation and goal...it`s another sham..a ploy...and you won`t get away with it this time either.

Teach Syriac where our people are in the majority.
Create a department of high studies in the Syriac language and literature.

...you mean Church history as history...also never happen. You were always allowed religious freedom..but you went the extra step..used religion as a political screwdriver...the same way you still confuse the two...your politics and democracy is all church nonsesne...you are all of you illiterate anyway with no interest in any real history that doesn`t come from a Syriac manuscript.

Representation in the national assembly, according to our numbers.
We believe that the formation of a state based on the rule of law and democracy, a state whose citizens are respected, will improve Iraq’s relations with the world and bring stability to the region.

...that was happening just fine..at THEIR pace..like every other country is granted the right..or was. These are all hollow phrases to justify a war of aggression and try to put a noble sounding spin on it..the LAST people it fools are the Iraqis...we know how easy it is to fool you.

...The absolute last thing America wants is stability and peace in that region...

We believe that all conflicts must be resolved by peaceful means.

...sure..we just saw that put into effect. This peacefull way is still going on...at the morgue.

We believe that the people of Iraq must strive for political and economic cooperation.

...they believed that too...do you know any people who strive for the opposite...besides the Americans, who strive mightily to deny it to others?

We believe that Iraq must respect international law and the United Nations charter.

...sure when they respect Iraq. The UN and International law and America has shown the way to break laws with impunity.-.has unleashed the rule of Might and bullshit later.

We reject extremism and violence and stand against international terrorism.

..there are no terrorists to match the United States administration...no one in Iraq ever attacked the United States..no one had anything to do with BinLaden or WMDs...no one had any ties to the Taliban...but it didn`t matter..when the United States needs terrorists it MANUFACTURES them..which is exactly what it`s doing in Iraq and will do tomorrow and next week...and then they`ll leave..and they`ll leave you there...in Simele.

Long live the Iraqi people.

...they wish it too...but you people are making it problematical...

Long live the Chaldo-Assyrian people.

...you are no such thing...you call yourselves Christians too..and you aren`t that either...you are opportunists.

Long live freedom, the rule of law and democracy in the new Iraq.

...no one made more certain those things would not survive than the people calling for it now...what you mean is that you want the Iraqi people to "bhave" and obey the laws imposed on them..the NEW laws of Iraq that Bremmer dreamed up...you silly, silly man.

...there...I`ll read again in two years...what do you want to bet they`ll still be calling for respect for international law..of ALL things!

---------------------

- BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

The full topic:
No replies.

Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/vnd.ms-excel, applicatio...
Accept-encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-language: es-mx
Cache-control: no-cache
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-length: 15169
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Cookie: *hidded*
Host: www.insideassyria.com
Referer: http://www.insideassyria.com/rkvsf/rkvsf_core.php?.3GYe.
User-agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; MSN 6.1; MSNbMSFT; MSNmes-mx; MSNc00; v5m)