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Re: You are twisting the facts

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Written by Fred Aprim on 14 Jul 2004 19:08:53:

As an answer to: Sim-El : In the name of God written by Tiglath on 14 Jul 2004 15:24:45:

Your "story" is all twisted. Not even pan-Arab writers had it better than your story. What a pity!

...thereªs no pity in your world...just a pathetic Christian trying to explain away his own personal failures. Because you write you think your a writer..because you go into histrionics, you think youªre a historian...and so on.

1. The Assyrians did not engage with the Iraqi Army and fled to Syria. In other words, the well-known battle of Fish Khabor did not take place at this point in history. The 800 or so Assyrians had been in Syria and after they attempted to return to Iraq (according to negociations between Iraq and Syria) the battle with the Iraqi army at Fish Khabor took place.

...are you saying that Tiglathªs father, whom at other times you call great and comiserate with for having such a son...didnªt know where HE was? Were you there? Just the facts please. Is Tiglath lying...or is it more likely you are...you who still canªt manage to locate 27,000 Assyrian children murdered by your Christian Masters...who"s paying YOU, you putz?

2. There was no realization that their Iraqi nation was soon to expire (as you put it) and the British did NOT tell the Assyrians to attack the Iraqi army and make a bid for a homeland.

...assuming Tiglath got those parts wrong..what makes you think anyone believes YOU? The point to the story is what the man realized...which is the same thing the Iraqis realized...that they were betrayed and fired upon by people they had helped...there is no Arabization in place anywhere...youªre just pissed as hell because many of our people went to Islam just as you were all JEWISHFRIED.

The British had signed the Anglo-Iraqi Treaty of 1930 and both sides (the Iraqi government and the British) were content.

...The Levies were in 1921...the betrayals had started earlier then that treaty and Iªd remind you what a treaty really means between a brutal nation of international thugs like the British and a nation just being formed, as Iraq was that was sitting on the second largest oil field in the world...when the Iraqis didnªt do as the British wanted them, they were attacked...and the Brits had no trouble finding traitors then..as theyªve had none finding traitors in Iraq today...and as youªve had no trouble in smoothing over their crimes when they kill 27,000 of our children..who is the liar?

It was the Assyrians alone who were complaining to the League and British officials that if Iraq was admitted to the League WITH THE HELP AND BLESSING OF THE BRITISH, they (the Assyrians) would be massacred.

...what the hell are you talking about?

3. When the 800 or so Assyrians tried to come back to Iraq,

...from where? And why did they go there and why did they come back and what did they go for?

Iraqi army attacked them. A battle was only coming, it could have been avoided if the Iraqi army being a state army would have allowed the Assyrians to cross peacefully.

...Iraq was still reeling from the war, still adjusting to their new status, still having the British meddle in their affairs..under those circumstances NO state army or government is going to allow a bunch of hotheads to wander around the country and cross its borders illegally back and forth carrying the same weapons the British gave them that they used in British pay to kill Iraqis with...no country would all it.

...you people stand human psychology on its head to suit yourselves..you give yourselves the right to starve children to death then claim they were just a little hungry...that starvation and disease forced upon a civilian population by those claiming to "help" it killed no one..merely wiped them out....and then you become outraged when those parents fight back..like itªs really odd and the LAST thing you expected.

The Assyrians had to defend themselves when the Iraqi army began shooting at them.

...the Iraqi army did not go to villages prior to that and shoot Christians..it had not declared war on Christians,....it had not helped other Muslims kill Christians..instead it had taken them INTO Iraq to protect them and feed them and allow them to start new lives...for which a group of them AGAIN went to work for the British..as Agha Poutrous had done during the war...and they screwed it up for everybody...The Iraqi army did what it did in confronting those Christians because they were acting the part of lawless thugs...they refused to put down their weapons and they were fired upon as any group of men entering any country illegally bearing weapons would be shot by the State army.

The Iraqi army lost casualties.

..."lost" them? Where, in the snow?

The Iraqi government issued a decree granting pardon FOR ALL INVOLVED and asking all Assyrians to lay their arms. The Levy had argued that they will not lay their arms until all Iraqi groups lay their arms as well.

...the Levies were telling the Iraqi government what to do? When you set a series of steps in motion that result in you getting wiped out, or moved, by an overwhelming force...you can hardly cry foul. Carrying weapons and demanding special rights and protections didnªt work for the Native Americans either..you gonna fight the government of ANY country be prepared to suffer the consequences..why is that such a shock to you people..were you born in forums?

However, many other Assyrians did lay their arms. The retreated Iraqi army gathered all Assyrians who laid their arms, and other old men, women, and children from all villages around simele and massacred them all in cold blood.

...you donªt mean like the Christian American Masters you serve have done to 27,000 Assyrian children you canªt seem to find anywhere..you mean that kind of cold blood?

They paraded the women naked in front of the army and massacred them all.

...you mean the golden opportunity to rape them on pikes as they fell through the air was missing this time? Whasamatter, you getting tired of that one too?

The killing and looting covered most of north of Iraq and continued for days. The British army sat and watched for days while the massacre was going on. It did NOTHING to stop it. The British planes were taking photos of what was going on!

..thereªs been looting and killing and theft and destruction going in ALL of Iraq for 14 years and more and itªs all been done with your enthusiastic support..it seems you donªt mind when Christians are looting and killing and raping and starving our people to death, Christians and Muslim alike..you just resent it when Muslims do it. Do you want an exclusive on these kinds of things...is it a personal thing with Christians..are you jealous when others do what you want to be the undisputed champs at?

4. The Iraqi government at the time planned the massacre; it was premeditated as Iraqi newspapers for months aggitated the Iraqi people. The government was getting weak against the opposition. The government looked for an escapegoat, and there were the Assyrians.

...bullshit. Feisal wanted peace he asked all Iraqis to work together...but he hated the British for what theyªd done to him and his family and the broken promises made in Arabia through Lawrence and others..he didnªt trust them and he knew what they were capable of..the LAST thing Iraq wanted was internal dissension and civl, religious war..which is EXACTLY what you people call a "golden opprtunity" and being stupid and opportiunistic youªve put your foot in your mouth EVERY time and just canªt bring yourselves to admit you fucked up royally..like you canªt today when you have to go so far as to refuse to honor dead Assyrian children killed by your Masters...because they donªt help you lie..in fact they give YOU the lie....you are no Assyrian and you have no interest in Assyrians..you are one of several pissed off Christians who wants Muslims killed because you canªt get a book published by anyone but yourself and Zindalite.

Get your facts straight.

...Tiglath revealed something very telling about his father, himself and our history from people who were THERE...and you have said nothing about the central issue here, merely presenting your usual lies in the pay of your Matsers.

Fred

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