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Re: The Future of Iraq’s Christians

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Written by Hanna Hajjar on 01 Sep 2004 00:05:15:

As an answer to: Re: The Future of Iraq’s Christians written by Arameans on 31 Aug 2004 09:49:43:

Sure the Assyrians fought on the side of British, their survival was on the stake, they were being massacred left and right, and in order to survive they allied themselves with anyone whom they would beleive that would defend them.

...just like you all said they had to ally themselves with America AND the British this time..just like you found and made up anything you needed to say they were being massacred by Saddam and thrown into jail and BEGGING for rescue THIS time..and it took the bombing of the churches and the death of fiteen MORE before we heard from the people THERE that they were friends..that there WAS no hatred or fear or danger like YOU kept reporting the "facts" about...and we found out that Muslims live right NEXT door to the churches and didn't dance in glee at the sight but were the FIRST to go in and help pull the Christians out...our people, THEIR people..because that's what they see..it's you people who ran here who give us these hate-filled scenarios when all along it's the hatred YOU feel for our people for daring to become Muslims at all.

...there were older and wiser and moree experienced Assyrians back then who had learned from bitter experience...not to fear or distrust Muslims..but to beware and fear the British and their lies and coy ways that had set them up once ALREADY...but the boys of that day wouldn't listen either and so they rushed off eager to work for the British so they could get a big triangle and they screwed it up for all the other Assyrians who were content and willing to rebuild their shattered lives in a new Iraq...and you just did it again!

It might have been a wrong gamble,

...it was not a "gamble"..it was a no-brainer...there is NO WAY that with British help of ALL people, a handful of Christians were going to be able to "defend" themselves from a horde of the kinds of Muslims YOU describe...no way. It was doomed from the start....a sure fire failure JUST like your venture was this time...only this time you were nowhere near the actual dammage you did..you sent death to visit people you CLAIMED were dying anyway...and you got more of them killed than ANY Muslims ever did in the last half centuury at LEAST...you once gain placed THEM in mortal danger...do you think there is ONE of them today who would wish this on anyone? It was not a "mistake in judgement"..it was not a "gamble"..it was out and out stupidity aided by the West that has ever found enough assholes among us..like they JUST did again.

but they other option was complete extemination, and hence the lesser of two evils becomes an acceptable solution when someone's life is on the stake.

...it was not...or else why are they there NOW...why did they have those churches all hese years? How did Tariq Azziz get there and Dr Donny George..how did so many of you get college degrees before coming to America? Why are our people there blaming OUTSIDE forces for their misery? After your betrayal of Iraq and work for the Levies, you made it harder on OUR people...not Iraqis...and yet they sought no revenge on you ALL...our people stayed and lived and had businesses and married and remained in peace to this day when you came agian with stories about how they were all facing certain slaughter and worse...and you lied to us AGAIN!

Now let's take a look at the actions of the Arabs during the same period (fist quarter of the 20th century):

...why? Why don't we look at the Christin West that began its illegal attacks on that region with the First World War...their first grab for oil...and come right down to the free hand given Israel...and on to the CIA Mullahs of Iran, the support of Saddam, the wars encouraged by the United States which they profited from..right down to THIS one..why don't we concentrate on the foreign AGRESSOR instead , who is there again killing our people and stealing our resources..don't you LIKE BetNahrain?

Long before the Assyrians got involved with the British, the Arabs have been allies with the British too, and Sharif Mecca was fully cooperating with Lawrence of Arabia, to the extent that the British rewarded them by assigning members of that family as kings over Hijaz, Jordan and Iraq.

...they were USED by the British...the Arabs NEVER trusted them..they used each other.

Mind you that unlike Christian Assyrians (were seeking survival when they were persecuted by Turks and Kurds),

..you were NOT..it was the Christian West that came persecuting and massacreeing TURKS! There was no justification for that war...Turkey did NOTHING to the West, except have the two greatest oil fields in the world. We had it BEST..we had it better in Turkey under the Millet System than we have EVER had it since or are likely to...your fucking triangle EXISTED already in the Ottoman Empire..it wasn't destroyed by Turks or Kurds but by Christians..the same ones you look to today for "help".

on the other hand the Moslem Arabs were not threatened by extermination, and were not persecutedby the Turks, since both Arabs and Turks share the same religion. Therefore the Arabs did not have any reason to revolt against their Moslem rulers who represent the Califs decending from the Prophet Mohammad. The Arab Moslems violated their religon when they collaborated with the British against Turkey, and hence that makes the Arabs traitors to Islam.

...go blow it out your ass...there's a reason you all hide in there creating "history" out of hysteria..where else could you pull this crap? Where is ONE scholar you've produced anywhere who is recognized as such and who says these things?

The Hijazi royal family of Iraq were puppets of the British, and what happened in 1933 was that the British had three allies in the Middle East: Arabs, Jews and Assyrians, and with the discovery of oil in Northen Iraq, the British did not want to hand it to Assyrians and lose the oil revenues, so they dropped them and supported the Arabs whom they thought they could control for a longer time, which they did. It was British Petrolium that ran British policy and dictated the political events and strategies.

...you are full of shit AND pisheetas!

It is insulting to human intelligence when you conclude that Assyrian are traitors because they allied themselves with the British to survive persecution, while Arabs whose survival was not an issue, were not, even though they both had allied themselves with the same British. This is called double standards!

...they did not do it to "survive persecution",,,,there WAS no persecution...they were SAVED by Iraq when they ran from Iran..that's why your betrayal is so galling...then as now there were jackasses among us who will NOT accept the fact that Islam owns the MidEast..and because of this crap about Christians being the ONLY Assyrians..and PURE ones at that...you have looked upon all Muslims as HAVING to be from Arabia..and who are therefore on YOUR land...even if it was true...even if EVERY Mulsim Iraqi WAS from Arabia...so WHAT?...all the Amorites were from the desert too...so what? Modern Jews are from Europe and Brooklyn..so what? People move and if they can take land and hold onto it it is THEIRS..like you live on the stolen lands of Native Americans..so what?

This is being repeated today, when millions of Iraqi Moslems are supporting the allied forces, and the radicals pick on the Christian churches in Iraq and blow them up!

...they are puppets...millions of PEOPLE in the Muslim world are being held down by pupperts..just as for decades millions of Latin people were being held down by American puppets..and before that millions of Africans were being held down by Imperialst colonizers..and millions in South Afrika were being held down by a White minority from Europe..it takles time and effort to break chains and that kind of brutal regime...THAT is what is being imposed on the MidEast and by the SAME people who just found another Iraqi puppet regime which no one in Iraq supports..besides ZOWAA who still need a contract to rebuild from SOMEBODY!

...you were liars and traitors to Iraq then...you are liars and traitors to Iraq today...Iraq IS BetNahrain..all those people are decsended from the ancients..including the Assyrians..you have always betrayed the Assyrian people in favor of your Christianity...you just did it again.

Hanna Hajjar

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