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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Tuesday, August 3 2004, 21:56:29 (CEST)
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Paul Younan wrote:
>You sound like a broken record.

...Iªll admit it was original of you to offer me your ass.

Stick to the topic.

...stick to one.
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>What about the story don't you believe, not that I care, but I'm curious? You believe they were killed,

...yes. I believge it because I know how often Christians have thrown children into pits to die...or taken away their medicine...why should Muslims be any better?

you believe Yosip was cut and you believe that Qinno was abducted

...of course. What is so unusual in that? I believe Christians kidnapped millions of Africans and sold their children and bred them like cattle...why would a Muslim be any better?

......You don't believe that they were told to recite the creed before they were martyred? Is that the incredible, unbelievable part?

...I donªt believe they were martyred to begin with and I donªt believe they were asked to convert...they certainly could have been forced to SAY something, anything before being killed...I made that plain enough. Yes..I do NOT believe any 12 year old who just saw mommy and daddy butchered like hogs and himself facing the same fate...remembered much of anything. I DO believe a priest used him though...THAT I believe.
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>There are thousands of stories just like this one from that time ... is everyone lying and you're the only one telling the truth?

...religious lies in the service of gods...and please remember there IS no monotheism in the world... are of a different kind...Bush lied all over the place..he knew he was and so did everyone involved in that war...we too lied when we said he wasnªt lying...yet they all believed they were doing GREATER service to their Lord in lying...happens all the time. Just like killing for your god...shit happens, ask Aprim.

...I believe these stories are "enhanced" to get the maximum good that can be gotten out of them...like all the lies now being spread by LOTS of people...

The Muslims never gave their victims a chance to convert to Islam in order to save their neck?

...Exactly. I donªt believe that. It is expressly forbidden to force conversions onto Christians or anyone else...only the Christians forced anyone to adopt their religion and then ONLY the Jews...as if to bring them to the true god by force after all. I believe Muslims made it clear that you would be welcomed into Islam and not be charged your jizzim...but I donªt believe they asked anyone to convert..why would you want a "pig" in your religion? I can believe they humiliated them before killing them by making them say something to indicate they were betraying their own Jesus...some insult or something..and I think they all knew they were going to be killed anyway and refused to add that bit of misery to their brief time left...but no Muslim SERIOUSLY and with full intention to win a "convert" did so when they ALL knew damn well it was an insult to their own religion to drag someone to it who was even less friendly towards it thanks to the way they were froced into it..I donªt believe ANY of the stories about "convert and live"...not a one. Yours included. I accept everything else about it as being typpical of all you religious nuts...but it was murder plain and simple..with some religious hatred and taunting thrown in.
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>Is that what you find hard to believe....not the killing, not the abducting....but the recital of the creed?

...Yup...I see a priestªs dirty dealing there.
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>Man, you are dense and you do live in a utopia.

...at least I didnªt inhabit YOUR Utopia..which believed Bush was going to free Darkies and there would be great days ahead if Christians attacked our Muslims brothers and sisters AGAIN.

...I donªt think itªs dense not to buy propaganda...ESPECIALLY when itªs put to the service of gods...we know all you people are cagey and dishonest as hell...that you forgive yourslves your own sins and plow right on through...how the Mafia would love to run the courts and prisons too.

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I donªt believe martyr stories parhad - Tuesday, August 3 2004, 16:57:23 (CEST)
- Re: I donªt believe martyr stories Paul Younan - 08/03 19:06
  - Re: I donªt believe martyr stories parhad - 08/03 19:48
    - Re: I donªt believe martyr stories Paul Younan - 08/03 20:29
      - Re: I donªt believe martyr stories parhad - 08/03 21:56
        Re: I donªt believe martyr stories Paul Younan - 08/03 22:05
        More density... Paul Younan - 08/03 22:10
        Re: More density... parhad - 08/03 22:29
        Re: More density... Paul Younan - 08/03 22:38
        More Church Propoganda Paul Younan - 08/03 22:47
        
        Re: More density... parhad - 08/03 23:48
        Re: More density... Paul Younan - 08/04 17:57
        YOU again? parhad - 08/04 18:31
        Re: YOU again? Paul Younan - 08/04 21:47
        Re: YOU again? parhad - 08/04 22:08
        Re: YOU again? Paul Younan - 08/04 22:24
        Re: YOU again? parhad - 08/04 23:38

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