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Re: Legality has nothing to do with it.
Posted by parhad (Guest) - Thursday, September 9 2004, 7:38:59 (CEST)
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Paul Younan wrote:
>Farid uses the legal definition of murder


..you`re speaking in tongues gain..it will get you far in your church..not in a court of Law..the definitoion of abortion and murder are two different things..remember, we aren`t ruled by your Deusenberg..we are ruled by our Laws.

to state that abortion is not murder because the law happens to allow it at this particular time and in this particular country. In other words, it has absolutely nothing to do with the act itself, but is only dependant on what the members of government/courts think at any particular time period?

..that`s exactly what Law is..it is the considered judgement of the people who must THEN live under the Laws THEY select for the ENTIRE nation made up as it is of people from various religions and ethical and moral persuasions who do NOT not want to be subjected to the ravings of any one god or many..it is NOT Sharia Law fixed and foreever unchangeable..you`re in the wrong religion and country. Law is FLUID..it always has been, it has to be because people change and so do ideas..as there once wasn`t a yahwe and then there was..as the Church has changed its doctrines innumerable times..things change...Life rots if it stops...we have decided to change the Law..as we have in many instances where women are concerned you probably also despise but can`t make as convincing an argument, you think, as you try here..the Law has changed and FORCED your church to change..no longer can you rotate pedophile priests and hide their CRIMINAL behavior..they can`t get off by reciting a prayer in Moral speak..they MUST answer to our LAWS first and foremost..that`s our best chance to save the children under thier "care"...the LAW is suprrme, not your god.

We have laws on this forum as well..because we are not Christian and have no moral anything..our law says that you are free to speak your mind on whatever toipic you want...within reason...and that includes calling my mother names and discussing issues that are important to you..stuff that in your neo-pagan pipe and smoke it.
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>In other words, it wasn't murder when all the Jews in Nazi Germany were, uh, "terminated"?

..you are being foolish and god love you for it!
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>Or to go back to the slavery example again. Slaves were considered property. All this time I thought all those slaves that were beaten to death or lynched were murdered. I guess it's a relief now to find out that that wasn't the case since no law existed at the time to protect them.

...a Law can be BAD...and even WRONG..but it is THE LAW...aboltionists, decent people who fought Slavery were HANGED...Jesus was MURDERED because he broke the LAW....LAW isn`t a MORAL...no one trusts MORALS enough to live by them as LAWS..except for Mullahs..which is where you belong.

Whew. I think I'll attend the next million-man march and make sure I make that point loud and clear as I'm sure it will be an immediate relief to all those in attendance knowing their ancestors were never mistreated or murdered in this country....because the LAW said it was OK.

..of course they were mistreated and murderd..but it was LEGAL to do so at the time...why are you having such a hard time with this? Are you REALLY that stupid?

..Your morality once agreed with our Law and abortion was illegal...whereas your Morals don`t change and would go on demanding TWO deaths..our LAW changed because we became a little more humane and decent..the Law now allows for ONE death..where before it forced TWO...this is an improvement...your morality wants to go back to TWO deaths...that`s what`s wrong with morality...it doesn`t accomodate Human intelligence, growth and compassion...nothing in your mortality STOPPED abortions...you just got to punish the woman too..you got to risk her life for the fetus she terminated..that may be moral but it isn`t as compassionate as we can be..so we changed the Law...if your morality could get rid of all unwanted pregnanaices by magic..like you turned fish into swine..than EVEYBODY would be all for it..and there would be NO need for abortions..but since it CAN`T we`re left with the FACT that women get abortions anway..which means the fetus DIES anyway..no matter how much you rant and rail..or HOW many alternatives you offer..the fetus dies ANYWAY...but our more humane Law has changed in order to save at least ONE life...one life MORE than your mporality is willing to accomodate...it turns out YOU want MORE murder!
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>What if Congress passed a law next year saying it was your right to terminate your parents if they became too much of a burden? What about Latinos? Blacks? Muslims? Basically, then, you can define murder, and by extension morality, simply by getting enough of your people into office.

..if we the people deicde that`s what we want..then it`s the Law we`ll have to live with..but unlike your god, we also have in our Laws ways to CHANGE and challenge them...something we can`t do with your fucking god.

..whatever mistakes the Law might make..we saw 1000 years of the Church`s morals ruling in Europe and NO ONE wants to see that kind morality ever again.
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>Now THERE's a concept...neo-Pagan humanism disguised as a reverence for ancient Mesopotamian paganism in action, embracing liberal western values when it suits them. Wulla you are a bunch of clowns if I ever saw one.

...we believe in the rule of Law...HUMAN Laws for HUMANS..I believe the Taliban would suit you perfectly.
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>-Paul



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