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Re: Murder Inc.
Posted by Paul Younan (Guest) - Friday, August 13 2004, 5:05:45 (CEST)
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>>I understand perfectly what a martyr is. If you use the definition in Webster's dictionary, it means a person who chose death instead of denying their religion.
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>...then all the Freedom Fighters in Iraq are also martyrs...

What? Hello? Does that make any sense to anyone else?

PAUL SAID: "Martyr means a person who chose death instead of denying their religion."

to which Farid answers:

"then all the Freedom Fighters in Iraq are also martyrs"

Hello! Farid, are you okay? What American forces asked the "Freedom Fighters in Iraq" to convert to Christianity or face death?

Wulla you are a nutcase.

>only they choose to die FIGHTING!

You mean like Mar Shimon, Agha Petros and all those other Christians that you will never mention in the same context?

>You choose it as a passive way out for YOU while your children stay behind to get far worse than death.

That's ridiculous and I wish you would get over it already.

I'd choose death over relinquishing my religion whether I was single with no children or married with children, it doesn't matter. All you've done is once again set up a straw man and begun attacking it. It's your favourite technique when you know you are losing an argument.

>You people are in love with death, your own most of all.

No we are not. We are in love with life as we want to live it, not as someone else decides for us to live it. Once it comes to that, there is no reason to live anymore. I have no desire to live as a Muslim or as anything else but a Christian. It is my choice.....and so would be death if it meant living as a non-Christian.

>The Muslim Freedom Fighter courts death too...but not as dog sitting by while his throat is cut

Who would be sitting? That would be YOU after you tried to convert and they laughed and sliced your neck anyway.

>... and NEVER offering his own children up after he beats a hasty retreat.

More senseless rambling. Nobody would offer up their children. Yosip made his own choice....Qinno, unfortunately, we don't know what became of her. They were probably going to take her anyway, being sick pedophiles like their Muhammad (curses be upon him now and always and forevermore, Amen). Maybe somebody resued her. Yosip never saw her again and nobody had any information.

Regardless, the parents' refusal to be forced into Islam does not translate in any way, shape or form to them "offering up their own children."

>...in your new and improved version of the story they MIGHT have been given a choice....

I never said that you idiot. I said maybe they were going to be killed ANYWAY, AFTER THE CHOICE was given....MAYBE it was all a ploy. Do you understand EEENGLIS?

>where you said before you KNEW they were asked to say ten words...because their 12 year old son witnessed it and lived to tell about how the same choice was giben to HIM.

I'm still saying the same thing. What did you read?

>>They were martyrs. Get over it.
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>..not in your re-telling. They were murdered outright for BEING Christians..that is not martyrdom...it is murder..like all the Muslims AND Christians your Bush has murdered for being Muslim.

You'd like that, wouldn't you? To draw some sort of parallel? Nice try.

>...Jeez you're a slippery bastard. You said their son SAW them given the choice...as was he...but that HE SAW his parents refuse and choose death...the same choice he claims he was presented with and turned down.

Yes. I'm glad you understand now.

>...And NO choice was given the girl because she was valuable.

He doesn't know Farid. They sliced his neck and he wasn't really paying attention to anything after they threw him in the pit on top of his parent's lifeless bodies....he wasn't really in the condition to peek out and see what happened to Qinno, whether they killed her too or whether they gave her a choice or whether they simply rode off with her.

I know one thing: he never forgot her. He named his first daughter (my Mother) Qinno....his next daughter was named after his mother (Khatoun) and his son was named after his father Dawith.

They lived on with pride - YOU hang your head in shame, you coward.

>...These were murders

Of course they were murders. You're such a genius Farid, how did you come up with that brilliant idea all by your wittle lonesome? Geez.

>...and your family was killed outright..

By "outright" you mean of course that they weren't martyrs...that these cold-blooded blood-thirsty Turks didn't offer any chance for them to become good, acceptable Muhammadites (curses be upon his name, now and forevermore, Amen.)?


>..it is your church and YOu who lie about it for the sake of god..

There are plenty of people in our community who knew my grandfather and what happened to his family. I don't feel particularly interested in convincing an idiot like you of anything. Your opinion means shit to me. Do I look like I care what you think? The story was told on a different forum in response to a different question. It has nothing to do with you or my desire for you to "believe" it. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant - as YOU are irrelevant to this nation.

The rest of your post is your same senseless ramblings. I don't have the patience right now to explain to you for the umpteenth time that Christian Assyrians have never killed 6 million Jews and that there has been no greater killer of Christian Assyrians in the last 1,400 years than the Muhammadite (curses be upon his name now and foreevermore, Amen and Amen.)

-Paul



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