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Posted by Parhad (Guest) - Saturday, September 18 2004, 17:19:46 (CEST)
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Tiglath wrote:
>The Roman Catholic Church became the state religion of the Roman Empire.
>The term Pax Romana, was Latin for "the Roman peace", and this long period of "peace" was experienced by states within the Roman Empire not by CHristian missionaries walking barefoot to Gaul, but by the fact that Roman rule and its legal system pacified regions which had suffered from the quarrels between rival leaders, forcefully.

...it was also said of it that the Romans created a wasteland...and called it "peace". Where the people of BetNahrain went..the ones NOT infected by Judaism...there was still tolerance for others...even though Islam derived for Judaism,...Muhammad said both Jews and Christians had gotten the message a "little" wrong...and he was come with a call to WAKE UP from the same God...what he probably was responding to was the murderous intolerance the Judo-Christians were making of their religion...as it was then the Imperial religion of Rome...that`s what Muhammad experienced...the Eastern Romans coming and killing all before them...even OTHER Christians..and all Jews...who WOULDN`T draw the conclusion that there was somehting a little "off" in the only version of Christianity that was "working"?

It was in Ottoman lands that the unheard of was attempoted...when all threee religions were given freedom of worship....of COURSE there was discord...these were after all three separate parts of ONE religion..obviously they had their differences..but still...the system worked as well as it could have..under the tolerant gaze of the Sultan who only asked of his subjects that they respect civil law..it was from them that the Millet System came...something no Christian or Jew will EVER get in the MidEast again..that was given to us, they didn`t have to do it, by the Turks..it was ruined by the Western Christians...NOT by Islam.

At that same time, in a Europe cleansed of all but Christians..Christian was killing Christian...and they were ALL from one religion! Religion of "love" my ass. They call human sacrifice an act of "love"...hang the corpse in their "temples"....and eat the body and drink the blood...as a "game"...and we wonder...
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>And where its army went the priests soon followed and imposed their religion on the people forcefully.
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>In the East their co-religionsists also courted the Mongols hoping to become the state religion of the entire East. They were in essence attempting to marry into the Mongolian dynasty and form a Pax Mongolica. Moffett admits it right there in his book.

...One of Genghis`wives was Christian.
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>And that's the real reason why the CofE consecrated Mar Yaballaha III - a Mongolian - who ruled the Church of the East from 1281 until his death in 1318. It was not because they were tolerant and open. It was pure and simple opportunism.
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>Now imagine the Mongol hordes under the control of the CofE. Now imagine what would've happened to the world if the state religion of the Mongols had been Christianity.
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>I'm pretty sure that the same Mongol hordes who came back to bite the CofE raising a minuurat of 70,000 heads in Baghdad in 1401 would've eventually gone down the same path of their Western co-religionsist in the West.
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>There would've been an Inquisition and there would've been pogroms against non-believers and there would've been crimes against humanity committed by the Mongols but supported by the CofE clergy.
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>Therefore because this did not happen we can only prove that the CofE committed violent attacks and religous intolerance in certain incidents during its long history. Acts that would've set the precedent for even more had their courtship with the Pax Mongolica achieved fruition.

...excellent reasoning...course since it didn`t happen Pean (that`s Paul and Dean combined) will say it COULDN`T have....and call you "illogical"...like it`s logical to believe the bible.

A religion...a state religion especially...survives on sufferance...the civil government MUST support it or it goes nowhere. It is the kiss of death for ANY religion to be the one of choice for the rulers. Christianity is a corrupting force anywhere..but where it has guns at its back...it kills AND corrupts.

Look at Pean. They are STILL smashing fire temples and pagan symbols...though they lost their nuts, along with their minds, somewhere along the way and made liars of themselves on their OWN..when we were hoping for the best from them. I tell you..this stuff makes you insane and degenerate.

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Pax Mongolica Tiglath - Saturday, September 18 2004, 7:37:36 (CEST)
- Addendum Tiglath - 09/18 12:55
  - Re: Addendum Parhad - 09/18 17:21
    - Dean remains unanswered. Paul Younan - 09/20 22:29
      - I don`t play by your rules... Parhad - 09/20 23:26
  - Re: Addendum Paul Younan - 09/20 22:28
- Re: Pax Mongolica Parhad - 09/18 17:19
  - Re: Pax Mongolica Paul Younan - 09/20 22:32
    - Re: Pax Mongolica parhad - 09/22 00:20
- Re: Pax Mongolica Paul Younan - 09/20 22:26

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