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Re: To Dalale
Posted by Dalale (Guest) - Sunday, August 15 2004, 19:24:59 (CEST)
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Tiglath,

I never try to convince any human being of anything, I have barely enough time to convince myself. The reason I posted some exerts from Sitchins new book "The lost book of Enki" is to share with you some of his finds, since you have reopened the subject.

If you believe your own history is fictional, that all the writings on clay tablets are "myths" is your own choice, but any reasonable human being would first read Sitchin's work then object to it. You guys do the objecting before reading, and that just does not make any sense.

Sitchin does not say that "we were impregnated by aliens in the mother ship." Sitchin fans all over world would be laughing if they read this.

You said, "I may have read the Enuma Elish, the Ishtar and Tammuz MYTH and the Epic of Gilgamesh." Did you know that there never was a lady named Ishtar? this is a nickname created by the Akkadians, Babylonians, and Assyrians for the woman whose name was Inanna, the daughter of Nannar/Sin and Ningal, twin sister of Utu, betrothed to Dumuzi, associated with the planet Venus.

You've read this Epic but you still call it a "myth". If you think it's a myth then it is part of the "fictional episode of the X-files" which you are not willing to read.

You say there are "hundreds of other NON-fictional writings of our ancestors that (you) will read before (you are) ready to explore the latest fictional episode of the X-files" yet you call those "non-fictional writings" myths!

They are NOT non-fictional if they are "MYTHS"....Myth is legendary fiction..... the "Enuma Elish, Ishtar and Tammuz MYTH and the Epic of Gilgamesh" you cherish are as much "MYTHS" as the other Epic's and translations of clay tablets which were dictated to Endubsar by Enki which Zacharia Sitchin has translated. They are as much myth as the "Atra Hasis" Epic.

They are either all myths or all true, you cant pick and choose, it's either one or the other. Our ancestors were story tellers I guess, they were all novelists who create characters from another planet because there were no interesting beings on earth to write about...

About your deal. My advise is, don't read Sitchins books, if you do the Enuma Elish and other Sumerian Epics might start to make sense. Austen Henry Layard and Leonard Woolley would give you their opinion on Sitchins work, but it is quite difficult to get a hold of them!

I was introduced to Sitchins work by a Armenian Archeologist from the Netherlands. When she saw my interest in the history of Mesopotamia she told me about Sitchin. I didn't object nor did I say sorry lady I don't like reading the "latest fictional episode of the X-files," I asked for the name of the book and I bought it and read it!

I personally have nothing against the Bible and neither did this lady, but she had Sitchin's book covered with white leather, and she told me, "this is my Bible." I personally don't blame the Hebrews for translating some of the Sumerian Epics inaccurately, I believe everything happens for a reason and Sitchins work does not contradict the Bible it validates it.

I don't know why any Astrologists who can decipher cuneiform would disagree with Sitchin, nonetheless if you can find one post your findings for us all to see!

If you truly read your own history, you must have come across the name of the great Assyrian king Ashurbanipal at one point and time. This great, educated Assyrian king used to assemble and translate literature from his own antiquity. He used to boast that he could read several old languages including the old writing from before the great flood. Our great Assyrian King was such a great collector and translator of fiction and myth don't you think?

Dalale

P.S Here is the first tablet of your favorite myth the Enuma Elish.


THE FIRST TABLET

When in the height heaven was not named,
And the earth beneath did not yet bear a name,
And the primeval Apsu, who begat them,
And chaos, Tiamut, the mother of them both
Their waters were mingled together,
And no field was formed, no marsh was to be seen;
When of the gods none had been called into being,
And none bore a name, and no destinies were ordained;
Then were created the gods in the midst of heaven,
Lahmu and Lahamu were called into being...
Ages increased,...
Then Ansar and Kisar were created, and over them....
Long were the days, then there came forth.....
Anu, their son,...
Ansar and Anu...
And the god Anu...
Nudimmud, whom his fathers, his begetters.....
Abounding in all wisdom,...'
He was exceeding strong...
He had no rival -
Thus were established and were... the great gods.
But Tiamat and Apsu were still in confusion...
They were troubled and...
In disorder...
Apru was not diminished in might...
And Tiamat roared...
She smote, and their deeds...
Their way was evil...
Then Apsu, the begetter of the great gods,
Cried unto Mummu, his minister, and said unto him:
"O Mummu, thou minister that rejoicest my spirit,
Come, unto Tiamut let us go!
So they went and before Tiamat they lay down,
They consulted on a plan with regard to the gods, their sons.
Apsu opened his mouth and spake,
And unto Tiamut, the glistening one, he addressed the word:
...their way...
By day I can not rest, by night I can not lie down in peace.
But I will destroy their way, I will...
Let there be lamentation, and let us lie down again in peace."
When Tiamat heard these words,
She raged and cried aloud...
She... grievously...,
She uttered a curse, and unto Apsu she spake:
"What then shall we do?
Let their way be made difficult, and let us lie down again in peace."
Mummu answered, and gave counsel unto Apsu,
...and hostile to the gods was the counsel Mummu gave:
Come, their way is strong, but thou shalt destroy it;
Then by day shalt thou have rest, by night shalt thou lie down in peace."
Apsu harkened unto him and his countenance grew bright,
Since he (Mummu) planned evil against the gods his sons.
... he was afraid...,
His knees became weak; they gave way beneath him,
Because of the evil which their first-born had planned.
... their... they altered.
... they...,
Lamentation they sat in sorrow
..................
Then Ea (Enki), who knoweth all that is, went up and he beheld their muttering.



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