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Posted by Tiglath (Guest) davidchibo@hotmail.com - Monday, July 19 2004, 13:16:00 (CEST)
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>I remember having a similar conversation with you about two years ago on Bethsuryoyo. We didn't agree then and we are still in dissagreement. How can this Assyrian vs Christian dilemma be resolved? Leaving this issue up to individuals to decide whether they are Assyrian-Christians, Assyrian-Muslims, Assyrian-Atheists, and so on and so forth might be the best solution. We cannot make everyone who disagree's with us our enemy.

.....Who say's we've become enemies?
In a civilised society you have politicians who argue all the time. It's healthy to have different points of view it allows people and socities to grow. Having different points of view shouldd be encouraged.

>I'm sure you don't need anyone to admire you, but I for one admire you as a Sculptor and Artist and though i'm not a sculptor or a professional in this field, I find that your work is beyond amazing. I can agree with you on a few points, but I cant agree with you on all points, nonetheless this does not make you my enemy.
>You said,"you are mistaken when you call yourselves Assyrians...you`vemerely tagged on the name to your Christian sects...you do nothing Assyrian."
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>I wont deny I believe in Christ, but I am also Assyrian, and you are wrong when you say "you do nothing Assyrian."

.....The Kurds celebrate our ancestors' ancient New Year Festival on April 21st during the Spring Equinox and do not follow the Judeo-Christian calendar and celebrate it on 1st April as we do.
The Shiite in the south have built the beautiful glazed domes on their Mosques in najaf to mirror the Ishtar gate of their ancestors and to this day their traditional funerals still commemorate the Weeping of Tammuz festival.
The Yezidie up to this very day still call their God Ta'auz a corruption of our ancient God Tammuz the God of the netherworld - not Australia :-) - and were for centuries called Satan worshippers by us Christians.
The Arabs under Saddam specifically wrote in thewir constitution that the Iraqis were the descendants of the Babylonians and Assyrians.
Meanwhile we have preserved the ancient Aramaic language, I grant you that, but when you compare it to what the other groups have also preserved you'll find that we are no more or less Assyrian than they are.

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>I can give you many examples but a very, very, small example of my love for my Nation and my Assyrianism is that at the age of 19, I represented the Assyrians from my school in a Multicultural Festival and in our community, and recited a poem about Nineveh in front of 3000 people. I made the dress for this occasion on my own by imagining how Shamiran may have dressed, or another Assyrian Lady, and I represented my Nationality! When looking at some of your sculptures, and then looking at the dress I made I think to myself that I didn't do a great job in making the dress very Assyrian, and that I should have researched Ancient Assyrian female clothing a little more, but nonetheless I did the best that I could do.
>I may not be a great Assyrian Sculptor, but I think I created a small amount of awarness in our community by insuring that Assyrians were represented at this festival, and the reason I did it was not to be on some stage, but to honour my ancestors by letting people in our community know that Assyrians still exist today!

.....We are very proud of you Abbey. You're a reflection of our women throughout the ages. Under King Hammurabi's code of laws our women were given rights that the British only achieved in 1922. The first writer in history was Enheudenna the daughter of King Sargon and the high priestess of Ishtar. And let's not forget Queen Shamiram the first female in history to rule and Empire. Perhaps it is our women who will one day install the Shamiram monument in America.

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