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Posted by Dean (Guest) - Friday, September 3 2004, 20:47:45 (CEST)
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Parhad,

You need to be specific. Firstly, you originally made the claim, so you (not I) need to provide the proof. I am simply challenging you to support your position. If you can’t support it, you should drop it. Let’s review because I am not going to allow you to spin this topic all over the place so you can wiggle out of it.

You said effectively that no people willingly trashed their own culture for Jesus.

I said "What about Armenians"?

You said the church forced and killed them until only those who submitted survived the onslaught.

So here we are, the ball is in your court. Here are the questions again. Either you have answers or your don’t.

1) Which army invaded Armenia and forced its citizens to convert? When?

2) What was the name of the church that forced Armenians to convert? When?

-Dean

parhad wrote:
>Dean wrote:
>>All right parhad ... we've actually gone somewhere,
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>...because you`re blind we both need canes?
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>>parhad wrote:
>>>...I never said I had any proof..I was THINKING and extrapolating..these are things humans do all the time..
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>>You should have said this from the beginning. That you have no data, historical or otherwise to support your conspiracy theory.
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>...Not a throry at all...it`s no conspiracy either...I merely said that from the recorded behavior of your church we can make a pretty solid assumption as to how they made the rest of the people Christian...I said that all along...if you people stopped playing games we culd save time...
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>..If you haver any information as to how your Church made all >Armenians Christian...put it out here...IF you have none and I have none then each of us are free to make a guess...your gues is that they must have done it with peaces and kindness...it`s a guess...however your guess isn`t validated in any way by the KNOWN history of your Church anywhere...my guess at least uses their KNOWN behavior as a starting place...you`re is based on what you`d like to believ..mine is based on the knowledge we have about your church`s actual behaior....they are both guesses--mine is at leat based on facts...NOT about Armenia, neither of us have any..but based on facts we DO have about their behavior in other places...squirm some more.
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> Ok I can live with that. As long as the readers out there know that your theory is unfounded, nothing more than the figment of your imagination.
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>it is not...and it IS founded on something..on pretty solid something too. You still haven`t produced any evidence for Armenia...I have evidence for what your church has done to millions of people..therefore it isn`t a theory...I never said it was...´`m guessing from the mountain of evidence that the Church was consistant...you`re ignoring all that historical evidence to say since in Aremnia`s we case there is no evidence, it`s the one time they acted contrary to their rule...that`s the unsuported guess, or theory. I have evidence of 90% of their behavior...I have more to back my guess up than you do...in fact that 90% of factual cases pretty well makes my case for me...you`re is just a fond wish...readers aren`t stupid...they understood all along..and they understand when you`re trying to fake it...give us ONE piece of evidence..hell even a fable will do...in a discussion such as this it is not enough to point fingers at the flaws on the other side, as you see them...you have to present your side..and so far you haven`t...you just SAY.THIS HOW IT WAS, contrary to all that is known about your church...give us the fable at least.
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>>My jobs done!
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>...and so is mine...actually mine was done before we started...we already know you are a liar and vulgar to boot..we know you and Paul have a plan to disrupt and lie and set up any kind of confusion you think will êxpose^me..instead you`ve exposed yourselves time and again...you haven`t done a fucking thing except look foolish...my belief that your church murdered in Aremnia also still stands on solid assumptions..ypou`ve donme nothiong, offered no evidence, which you claim to have in encyclopedias around the world..nothing...just A CLAIM that runs counter to everything we know of the church...you`re right..you ARE done.
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>>Thanks,
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>...anytime
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>>-Dean
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