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Written by The Hypocracy Meter on 15 Jul 2004 17:43:08:

As an answer to: What makes a racist? written by The Hypocracy Meter on 15 Jul 2004 12:44:45:

You have to go to that www.insideassyria.com forum and read this guys response to this. He goes on about how his father was justified in hating Assyrians because they were loathsome, low class, uneducated with no education avaiable to them for the were so poor and unable to survive or get jobs without begging his father for scraps.

...thanks..if they do go there and read, they`ll see what a liar you are. We all dislike your kind of low class Assyrian...as I think everyone can see why. My father was no different. I said I always thought my family went a bit overboard in this...you are loathesome and uneducated...Assyrians hadn`t much opportunities elsewhere and Kuwait was a growing country...Assyrians came there desperate for work and my father helped them get what they came for..had he hated them he wouldn`t have done such a thing and there wouldn`t be so many Assyrians who repect his memory...who will never hear of you..and for good reason. He simply wasn`t going to throw his doors open because of the chance that someone like you might come in...but knowing him I know he would have found you a job..especially YOU...so you might not remain the embarrassment you are to us today....

He goes on to talk about the unsanitary conditions in the refugee camps that all these Assyrians are in that his doctor father had to treat. And this is the same guy that tells us that these Assyrians had it so good there that they were ungrateful for fighting back and trying to get some rights and a homeland,

..that was when they first arrived in Iraq and had nothing...gradually they went to work...all except for your father who got onto the British dole. A few years later my grandfather was able to open a clinic and Assyrians from everywhere, as well as Muslims came to the good doctor...the betrayal of the Levies came later...by then many Assyrians had moved on from the camps..you stayed.

....In the first place Iraq is not your homeland..in the second, as refugees fleeing for your lives you had no rights...the Iraqis had a choice...which would you prefer they did..take you into camps where you were safe and could feed your children..or leave you at their borders where you could have been slaughtered? It`s your call.

when he himslef said they did not even have access to education and jobs and homes, and he even said that his father was the ONLY medical doctor available to them for Muslim Drs would not survice loathsome christians.

...no I didn`t...I never said my father was a doctor to the refugees..I said my GRANDFATHER was the only doctor the Assyrian refugees had..I also said it was Assyrians like you, not Muslims or Turks, who gave those on the other side also jealous of him the pretext they needed to stop him from helping his people..it was Assyrians such as yourself...who can`t read or write or understand plain language who feel so incompetant and envious of others that they would destroy it all for their own people just to make themselves feel better....our Christians prefered their own doctor..of course Muslim doctors treated them...Iraqis knew no prejudice..that`s why they took us in...they just weren`t prepared for the kind of low down people your priests had made of you..it took them by surprise is all.....but like I said..all you people achieved, besides causing a great man some distress in the last years of his life was cause your wives to have Muslim fingers shoved up their cunts and arses...for which I`m sure they were every grateful.

Wow, these are the great conditions that he has previously told us about and now is contradicting. HYPOCRACY and LIES!!! And he can't see why people who were the few who survived a genocide and were now living under these conditions with those attitudes and treatments and God knows what fear of abductions, rapes, murders and other atrocities that they faced day to day.

...that never happened to them in Iraq...they were welcomed by Feisal as brothers and sisters and asked to join in building a great new country..and as our very successful Assyrians and Chaldeans over the years can atest...we did just that..with all the hardships the entire country faced..you were the ones with no education except a Syriac manuscript that told you it all belonged to you...and so you did nothing but try to screw it for the rest of us. There were no atrocities day to day, none at all till you turned on your hoists for British money...nothing like you Christians have finally managed to bring to Iraq these last 14 years where every one of your crimes is well documented and circulated the globe..the truth will set us free and fuck you over.

And these are the people that all Assyrians are now being damned because they probably needed to fight to survive or to know that their wives and children would survive.
...you don`t fight...you murder and starve your own people and get others to do it for you..you do nothing anywhere.

If you have no home, no job, no education and are seen as so loathsome as this guy readily admits on his reply to my post, then of course they had nothing to loose and had to try to get something for all was already lost.

...you`re deliberately mixing things and I`m pleased that you are..the Assyrians we need can see for themselves, thank you...the rest of you boys....you can have them. The refugees in Iraq had their lives and families...and they worked to supply the rest...and in time were prosperous again...except for you. The Assyrians who came to Kuwait seeking employment found no opportunity anywhere else..had they come to find you there wouldn`t have been much you could have done for them since you know no one and no one knows you...you could tell them about rape and atrocities and khon them to death...but yopu couldn`t do for them what my father could..which is why they travelled to Kuwait to seek him out...because of the family`s reputation among Assyrians..he did what they asked him to do..he contacted friends in government and patients high up in the economy and got them all jobs..as was his obligation as a good Assyrian..what he would NOT do is allow them into his house...at least not till he got to know them better and there were a few, very few he ever befriended...it is every Assyrian`s right to help another Assyrian if the person is worthy the trust..it is no one`s obligation to let a stranger into his house...if you fell into a river and were drowning I`d pull you out...for my sake more than yours..that`s just the way I am...I`d do the same for a dog...such as yourself...but I wouldn`t take the dog home with me and try to make a human being out of it.

And as for his how they should be grateful for refugee status, that may have validity but from what he himself says, they were unwanted refuges.

...They weren`t unwanted...and they weren`t caged up as they are in Australia...a Christian country...they were housed as the Red Cross houses refugees...in tents..and their status was that of refugees...as happens all over the world...but the irony is that they were given this second chance at life by Muslims...the same religion of those who chased them out of Iran..this alone shows how decently they were welcomed, with no prejudice whatsoever..you boys have merely worked like you never worked at a job to smear and slander Iraqis for your own perfidy and betrayals...just as you are betraying them now...you earned all the "hate" that was ever visited on you...and we know it and the world will too. I have a sculpture in mind titled "Simele"...and I bet you more people see it and respond well to it than ever will to your lies about Simele...art never lies...you always do.

I am not justifying anything but how can you damn people in those conditions when these same fools like this guy glorify the Palestinians

-..Palestinians also never blew up anybody..they harmed no one...not even the Jews who lived peacefully among them for years...all those centuries the European Christians were hounding and killing them till they found the right Christian to round them all up and fry them all. all six million of them...innocent each and every one....but to solve your Jewish problem...you Christians took the ones you couldn`t kill and forced them on the Palestinians..you robbed people of their homes and lands and then America waged a war against Palestinians through their Israeli dogs for decades...and have been roundly condemned for it by everyone including even the pope...and when they could take no more..as you claim as a justifciation, the Palestinians fought back with the few weapons they could afford..using even their own bodies as delivery systems...they would like nothing more than a fair and open fight, but will settle for whatever they have to do..it was never their choice..this war was forced on them..like the one forced on Iraq now..and they fought back as are Iraqi Freedom Fighters..and it is you Christians again who bring the wars then blame people for killing you to protect themselves from your aggression.

who blow themselves up to murder people, and their circumstances don't sound nearly as dire as this guys recent post paints of these loathsome, jobless, homeless, uneducated assyrians that even his father would not let in his home or want to be near. HYPOCRACY METER IS OFF THE SCALE WITH THIS GUY!!!!!!!

...there was a reason those Assyrians came to my father and not yours...any Assyrian thinking as you do would be lucky to wash dishes in a brothel and the Emir of a country would not allow you in his stables let alone among his women and have you be his mother`s personal physician..they came to my father and not yours because they knew he was in a position to help and that he wouldn`t turn down their requests to get jobs and care for their families...as he himself had been left wandering lost during the Raqa which reduced his family to poverty as well...but they worked, they worked hard..they prospered as doctors and won respect and status through which they were able to benefit their people as they could..not a one of the people who stood in my father`s garden has anything but praise and gratitude for what he did for them..they didn`t come to Kuwait seeking his friendship..they needed jobs not friends....and he helped them meet their needs...and his need was to keep his privacy away from you dogs ...and you`ve shown us all perfectly well why he felt as he did...because had he helped you...you would have forgotten the good he did you..as you ignore the good he did those Assyrians and you would have twisted things in your mind to justify hating him because he wouldn`t bow his proud Assyrian neck to your fucking Christian yoke..you penniless half-wits who think to out wit Life and Fortune by neglecting all the honest and difficult yet honorable paths that make a person able to stand tall and be of benefit in this Life and instead hope your Christian rants can do it for you..that if you know a Jew god you never need to know anything else....and when you get put in your place as a result of your own folly, you forget all the good Ashur, or a man like my father did you...so pushed out of shape are you by your own petty envy and you lie and distort and cheat and rob a dead man of his legacy...and my father was right to keep you out...I`ll tell you though...had you not given my father your name...he would have thrown you out the garden...so I`m an improvement....just don`t steal anything...

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