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Re: Iraqi Cenusus

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Written by Hanna Hajjar on 09 Aug 2004 22:30:17:

As an answer to: Iraqi Cenusus written by Arameans on 09 Aug 2004 21:41:29:

What is fair?

..what is fair haedly applies where might rules.

Here is how I look at it:

It applies to Assyrians because:

Fact #1:
Northern Mesopotamia is the homeland of Assyrians.

...see, that statement is meaningless...might as lay a claim to Manhattan by saying "Manhattan is the homeland of Powhatan and his tribe..." It WAS their homeland...this is a further indication that you dwell somewhere in the distant past and are fit only for message boards.

...Mesopotamia WAS their home..it no longer is and never will be again...another way of saying it is that Iraq is Mesopotamia and YOU are a Christian minority welcome to live there if you stop playing the part of Traitor..and YOU weren't born there so bugger off...

Fact #2:
Northern Mesopotamia is Assyrians' first and only homeland.

...you don't know that..as they and YOU knew nothing about any of this till 100 years ago when Europeans dug up and stole AND garbled our artifacts.

Fact #3:
Assyrians left their homeland not out of their own will, but because of ethnic cleansing, meassacres and genocides against them, in other words, they ran for their lives.

...that is bullshit. YOU ran...but then you run at conventions from ME. They were not massacreed in Iraq, they were SAVED from massacre BY Iraq..and their own treachery caused them to suffer...what a FEW assholes like you are STILL claiming as "history". There is the biggest genocide being waged against them NOW...with far more of our people killed by Christians than were EVER killed by Iraq,...and they are being killed by your Christian Masters.

Fact #4:
If there were no atrocities against Assyrians, then Assyrians would still have been living in their homeland, and would have constituted a majority there.

..not true at all...the majority ARE there and have been from the beginning..you just don't like them because they converted to Islam instead of Christianity...which is the entire basis of this nonsense "history" and your hatred of our Muslim Assyrians.

...Our Christian Assyrians are still there and were ONLY harmed at all and killed because of these lies you help spread for Bush to justify the murder of ALL our people he and you brought to Iraq....Mesopotamia...BetNahrain...Assyria.

Fact #5:
As to Assyrians the cut off date is 612 B.C. that is when the Assyrian homeland was taken over by foreign occupiers and since then, Assyrians have been systematically subjected to persecution by the occupiers of their homeland.

...not true at all. Under the Ottomans they had more autonomy than they ever will, the Millet System remember? And it was destroyed NOT by any attack from Islam..but by one BIG one from Christians...or don't you read?

...The Americans are the only real occupiers of the land and under their deliberate mismanagement our people are right NOW suffering their greatest genocide and slaughter and massacre in their entire modern history. Your stories of the dim past are too shakey and self-serving to be believed...especially since they come from priests who are the lyingest scoudrels ever because they Lie for God. And your Simele story...which took place in IRAQ...is so distorted by you as to be farcical...babies on scimitars and all.

It does not apply to others:

Fact #1:
The Kurds, Persians, Turks, and Arabs, came into the Assyrian homeland as occupiers.

...so did the Assyrians and Babylonians and Amorites at one time...so what? Fortunately for us the United Nations is asked to define such terms...not you. You don't know what a forum is and think tatoos are art.

Fact #2:
The Kurds, Persians, Turks, and Arabs, have other homelands elsewhere.

...So did the Assyrians...so did the Germans, Dutch and French and English,,,it didn't stop any of them from claiming and keeping new lands...what is the matter with you?

Fact #3:
The Kurds, Persians, Turks, and Arabs, who left northen Mesopotamia, didn't leave it because of Assyrioan persecution, they left it for economical reasons, or for persecution by non-Assyrians.

..which are the same reasons YOU left..for jobs and because the government didn't appreciate your rabble rousing "student unions" and "Churches".

In other words if it is a problem between Arabs and Kurds they should solve it on Arab and Kurdish land and not on the expense of Assyrian homeland.

..tell Bush to solve his problems in Midland and leave us alone...you are ALL working out your needs and fantasies and personal problems at OUR expense..and you aren't even from Iraq!

Fact #4:
Date does not apply to others because Assyria is not their homeland.

...And it isn't yours either. I don't think you want anything more than revenge..and to keep our people apart. You KNOW this goes nowhere..you aren't built for actually getting anything done..none of you are...I can never figure out why people expect you boys to DO anything. Your "task", if you call it that...is to keep this nonsense going...if hatred remains between us...dividing us...and if YOU make it clear that anyone trying to speak sanely and make sense will pay for it..to keep us from exposing you cocksuckers...and it won't work...our wonderful people of Iraq who've kept their humanity while you all snarl from the safety of Starbucks, will increasingly help us show who they are...and what you are...and we'll let the world decide.

Hanna Hajjar

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