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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Sunday, July 11 2004, 4:22:33 (CEST)
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..of slaughtering us to death with boring trivia about Bishop Kaplan and interminable discussions on why Christians make great Assyrians there`s the dawn of an actual real intellectual debate and attempt to gain a wider perspective...with the usual Christian insults aimed at our parents by annonymouse heroes of course...I lifted this paragraph becasue it so clearly shows what silly thing it is that`s keeping us at each other`s throats because of these Jew religions that were forced down our throats...Christianity as much, even more so, than Islam...this is a response to Tiglath who is doing some marvellous work juggling Christians...

"You are an educated man, I assume, you must realize how deeply the religions we are brought up with are rooted in our psyche and identity. And who are you or anyone to try and degrade that or trivialize it or take it away... as I think taints everything you promote from what I have read on your insideassyria forum.

...would that you could realize the same is true when you people knock our own religion..if you would stop for a moment to consider how important Ashur was to us..so crucial to our identity that we called ourselves by his name...if you considered how deeply Ashur must have been rooted in our psyche and identity...since he was OF us and OF our mountains and rivers and fields and valleys and children and people and weddings...and if you would imagine how it hurt us to have him degraded and trivialized by a Church that says King Abgar converted all Assyrians to Judaism (there was no Christianity then) simply because Ashur could not heal the king but a Jew did and that just a letter from a Jew was able to do more than belief in Ashur...if you would admit that it`s impossible the Assyrians willingly trashed their own culture and god and all that it means...as you are now claiming respectfor your Judo/Christian beliefs..and what a slander it is to say the Assyrians ran to hide in fear in mountain villages while everyone else stayed and participated in LIFE, including the Hebrews, and that a lone Jew walking down the road telling them about Jesus was enough to make them throw their culture and religion away and gave them the strength to come down and get murdered...and if you would remember how the Church "spread" Christianity in the modern era by killing people the State conquered and forcing their children into Christ...and how many millions were killed who would NOT do as you claim the Assyrians, of all people, did.. THRILLED to turn their backs on the religion they were born in, their parents married and their children were raised in, the religion that inspired them to create half of civilization and if you would stop rejoicing that we threw all this away...well, then you`d know what it is to insult a people such as the Assyrians.

Perhaps if you dropped all this despise and mockery of Christian Assyrians, they would be more productive dialogue about these things. Just my humble opinion.

...We never despised them..we came on asking questions and had our mothers and children attacked and slimed by Christians...who`ve been using this same tactic to drive people away..in order to stay and continue asking and learning and writing we`ve had to match them insult for insult..but as you can see, it is not Tiglath who is insulting anyone..he is being insulted by Christians...who claim that by merely asking a question they are "insulted" by him so what do you expect but that they`ll insult your dead mother right back...you are obviously new...so long as they insult Assyrians by saying we willingly gave away Ashur when the truth is that the church they now pray to forced us to do it under pain of death, like they did to every other culture..I said CULTURE, individuals here and there are always found who`ll try anything..as long as they insult and lie about our Muslim brothers and sisters and not count them in their roll of victims...leaving out as well the thousands of Assyrians killed by Christians in just the last 14 years..because they had the bad luck of not being killed by Muslims and therefore supplying fuel to this religious hatred that`s about done us in..then they can expect more questions..we don`t insult them..we merely challenge them and they can`t handle it because they always ran and hid before..and they might just do it again real soon if Tiglath slips up and gives them the slightest pretext..they simply cannot handle the Truth.

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