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in which Ben gets run over as well...

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Written by Ben on 22 Jun 2004 17:55:13: As an answer to: Re: we are not assyrian written by Tiglath on 22 Jun 2004 15:42:24: Tiglath: Your knowledge of history is based on ignorance just as your grammer is . ...If I wuz youse I wouldn`t throw around the word grammar... ...You can see Tiglath`s entire point in the responses he`s getting..no sooner does he say that thes boys are caught up in a complex problem way beyond their simplistic "me/you" paradigm...than they step up to the mark and start throwing around "I am me and you are you and we are VERY different". Again, they`ve made an insitution out of getting it wrong...and they won`t change. ..but let`s have fun with them anyway... 1- Kurds are not the descendants of the Sumerians. The first mention of Kurds is in 6th century B.C. and they lived in the Zagrouz mountians. Sumerians lived 2 to 4 thousand years B.C. ...this is also more of the "if they haven`t found it, then it never existed". Had archaeologists not found anything in Iraq..this ass would be telling us all that Assyrians were only what the bible says because..."where`s the evidence that they were any more than that"? This is scholarshit for you. The Zagraos mountains aren`t on a different planet..they aren`t even on a different continent..they aren`t even in a different country..rather they span an area that`s changed borders more often that Aprim does lip gloss. Ben believes he knows where people lived....and that they lived in that one spot for as long as they lived..else where would the rest of his Proooves go to? ..what are Kurds anyway? What are Assyrians? What are Romans? Does anyone know who was and who was not a Roman? Were only the people born in Rome Romans? Did the empire never stretch beyond the Po valley? Did it move north and south...did it go from mountain to mountain? Did Spaniards ever become Romans? What was a Spaniard back then? What are Spaniards today? Are Basques Spaniards? Are Basques Basques? ...these points of culture and ethnicity and who you used to be and how pure you were and where, people living thousands of years later, can tell you you lived..all of this stuff that can`t be proven and is open to speculation is JUST what boys seize upon...because it`s fluid and subject to debate forever..they decide they are as qualified as anyone else to KNOW. And only those as ignorant feel as confident. ...Tiglath`s point is that this is a complex issue and there may be no solution to short of mass murder and suicide...or maybe making the peace..declaring us all descended from a common source, much as the bible and the koran and Dr Leakey says..and stop fabricating spurious differences as excuses to hate what is different in each other when we`re all rat bastards of one type or another who would do well to recognize that fact and work together to improve our condition..our HUMAN condition. ..."now...which side of the mountain did you say YOU come from"? 2-Kurds are Indo European and speak a Persian based langauge. Their language has no relation to the Sumerian Langauge. ...No language has any relation to any other...except that they`re all means of verbal and then written communication...so where`s the problem? They are related "enough"..unless you want to kill children who speak a "different" same language. These are meaningless distinctions..not worth murder. Our existance on this planet has caused us to evolve and develop all sorts of "different" SAME things. It isn`t worth killing over..that`s the central point...which no amount of grammar gets across to you. 3-some time before 2000 B.C. the Akkadians invaded Mesopotamia. They were semite in origion and Spoke the Semite langauge which had norelation to the language Kurds have spoken.. They and the Surmerians became one people. ...according to the rest of your ditzy analysis that shouldn`t have happened..because they were "not the same"...but it DID happen..which is Tiglath`s point..those very different people, living mountains apart and speaking unrelated languages, came together somehow and the combination stunned the earth with the combined richness of each and what they developed TOGETHER..if it happened then...it can happen again..but not so long as Troglodytes like you decide what`s what. Had you been alive then when someone suggested "putting aside differences and reaching for our common humanity"..you would have saud..."we are not the same LOOK I eat with one finger, they eat with two". Fortunately you were outnumbered back then...as you will be again. People as widely "disparate" as Kurds, Turks, Babylonians and Swedes will learn to embrace each other and the world might again see a flourishing of culture as it did when the Sumerians and Semites...from opposite sides of the mountain..joined forces instead of beating each other with Syriac manuscripts. 4- The city of Babylon became the center of government inf the south and Assur became an independant ruling center in the north. ....and the North fought the South and a lot of people died and brother killed brother till they`d killed enough..yet they were all one people...descended from a lot of One People who have also fought and killed each other for ages over just these trifles..the point is: underneath all the surface differences, differences which should be embraced for the variety they give to life..we are all one people sharing far more than what separates us..except people like you thrive on ideas of racial purity and clean blood..and you kill people over these things..and we`ve seen you people before too..you are Fascists. 5- The Jewish culture is nothing more than the ancient Assyrian culture which they learned when they were exiled to Babylon. ...how do you like that! He just got through telling us how this one can`t be like that one because of mountains and such...and then he comes back and tells us the Jewish culture is just OUR OWN! How the hell did those two become the same??? And what was Assyrian culture doing in Babylon? I thought Assyrian culture was north and Babylonian culture was south??? And who was to the east and northwest? ...talk about trying to make Jews of us all. Ask a Jew if his culture is Assyrian..after what those bastards wrote about us in their bible..see if he agrees with this jackass. Or ask an Assyrian, NOT a Christian, if they are "almost the same" and see what number of kicks and blows get rained on your pointy head! Ass! As usual you are ignorant of the facts. ..that`s what they all say when you reject their Syriac manuscripts...and Aprims books..which have all the facts you`ll need..Ma`am. The stroy(watch your grammar!) of creation, the story of (you forgot the article) flood, the book of Job, The Calendar (NOT capitalized), the observation of the sabath(capitalize you ass ans spell it WRITE!), Their langauge(they did NOT gauge their language), their alphabet, and many other apects(WATCH your spelling) of the Jewish culture are Assyrian. ...of course...but NOT the Messiah. Christianity has barely the amount of humanity and decency in it Ashur had...but what is unique to them and the Jews is NOT what they stole from us..that was uniquely OURS you putz. What they had at the core of their beliefs, because they desperately needed to believe it..was this Messiah business..and he was to be a JEW, not an Assyrian OR a Christian. I`ve got news for you..we had heaven on earth...the Jews were in hell already..why do you think no one wanted Jerusalem...why do you think they barely managed to "conquer" cities whose walls fell over at the sound of a loud fart..or was it a trumpet? ..Assyrians had no reason whatsoever to dream up a Messiah coming to help them build toilets...Assyrians were able to make heaven on this earth in THIS lifetime, what the Jews could only dream of and wish for and pray for coming to them AFTER they died and at that it had to be supplied for them by someone else...and even then only with magic tricks and fire out the arse...Assyrians didn`t have to wait to die to drink milk..they didn`t need heavenly hosts cheating for them..they fought their own battles and won them fair and square and they NEVER killed their own children to impress their god at the first sign of trouble. Go your ways..you are another Jew apologist trying to proooves you were justified in switching to neo-Judaism...and it suits YOU just fine. Ben --------------------- - BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

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