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Re: Remember our Martyrs!

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Written by Adam on 28 Jul 2004 07:57:26:

As an answer to: Remember our Martyrs! written by Tiglath on 28 Jul 2004 04:31:14:

As usual you are spreading lies.

...as usual you protect your own lies by claiming the Truth is reall a Lie. You say the same about Moore`s film...as do the rest of you Christians..yet not a one of you can disprove a single factual statement...you merely dislike the conclusions he darws from the facts...cause you`ve grown comfortable to only ONE set of conclusions allowed and allowable...prove Moore wrong on any ONE FACT...and PROVE these figures wrong.

Aina has never given statistics you are quoting. The highly exagerated numbers quoted by others including the United Nations were supplied by Saddam's government and there is no break down of separate communities.

...the figures were not supplied by Saddam Hussein...at no point was the United Nations, Amnesty International or the International Red Cross taking Saddam`s word for anything...no one believed what he said about WMDs...no one believed anything else he said. There is no need to break anything down..for people who believe census figures when they need to...who break down and make up their own communities at will..shifting imaginary populations here and there as the need arrises...you have a funny way of deciding which "facts" to believe and which to doubt.

...The number of children killed by Sanctions is only doubted by those who killed them. You have no trouble believing who else is buried in mass graves as you swallow whole every story of Christian abuse. If you take the same percentage of the Iraqi population you allow for yourselves and use that same percentage of the population of murdered children the whole world except you knows full well were killed...you will get that number of 27,000 murdered Christian children under five you STILL want to re-bury.

It seems like you are sheding crocodile tears.

...it seems like you`ll say anything.

During the embargo Saddam was spending billions of dollars on palaces, and the largest mosque in Baghdad.

...one wonders where you got those figures and why you choose to believe them. In any case it would have made no difference had he wanted to spend it all on tires...he couldn`t have bought any, for ambulances OR his Benzes, because of "dual use". We know for a fact what he COULDN`T spend the money on, food, medicine and parts to repair the infrastructure deliberately targeted by your Masters...that`s the entire point.

...There was never such starvation or lack of medicine before Sanctions...in all the years he built palaces and bought perfume he managed to keep our people fed at the same time. Since he couldn`t buy food or medicine with the money...he built palaces. Was he supposed to give our money to you?

...Sanctions did this. Sanctions didn`t stop Saddam from splurging if, as you claim, he went on doing so...Sanctions didn`t stop Saddam from feeding his own children...Sanctions didn`t deny Saddam medical care....The United States wasn`t after ONE MAN...Sanctions were intended, were designed and were put in place to kill Iraqi children...Christians among them...Madeliene Albright said so. Don`t you read anything?

During the oil for food period saddam was paying 25,000 dollars for the family of each suicide bomber against Israleal.

...He was compensating Freedom Fighters. Are only American soldiers who rape men and sosdomize women and kill Iraqi children to receive death benefits for their families? Was America not paying families of soldiers and civillian "contractors" for murdering Iraqis?

Billions of dollars were given as kick back to people in various countries including the United Nation's officials. He was importing benzes from Germany and perfumes from France.

...That doesn`t get to the core of the issue...which you people make a studied point of missing...whatever behaviors Saddam indulged in..there had always been plenty left over for food and medicine. Even if he`d wanted to buy the same food and medicine, he could not have under Sanctions. We are not here to praise or condemn Saddam...that`s been done often enough...we`re trying to open people`s eyes to all the good reasons Iraqis have for despising Christians who claim to be Assyrians and use such claims to encourage the murder of our people who reject Christ...and to steal land that in no way belongs to them...we`re here to show that if you act the part of a thug, then you are one...we all know what Saddam was and who supported him all those bloody years...and we want to make it plain that you are still using him to further your church`s agenda..which is nothing less than the wholesale murder of Muslims..as for centuries your Church advocated retaliation against the Jews...till you got your wish there as well.

Thank you for defending Saddam and the United States once again...now ask for your Christian rights some more. The only right you have as Christians in Iraq is the right to GET OUT...don`t let the door slam your arse on the way out.

Adam

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