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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Thursday, July 15 2004, 19:33:06 (CEST)
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...whenever there"s an attack against US forces in Iraq by Iraqi Freedom Fighters..the Minutemen of their day...thereĒs retaliation against American Muslims in America...possibly especially so against otherwise "white" Americans who piss our rednecks off because they adopted a religion from "over there"...since all Americans believe Jesus and god too are whites born in Utah.

Why does it surprise anyone anywhere that when Americans attack Iraqis, Iraqis attack RIGHT BACK..only they go for the people attacking them.

When 19 Muslim Saudis attacked the United States, we retaliated against anyone BUT the Saudis...feeling that a Muslim who didnĒt like us, anywhere in the world even if heĒd never DONE anything, was a potential problem for us, so why not kill him or her now..and spare ourselves even the possibility of later grief...and our own boys thought this was a marvellous idea as well, regardless of the harm it did to our own innocent people.

How is that any different than attacking Simele and killing..or starving to death, every man, woman and child in it because you canĒt get your hands on those who attacked you with guns and killed your people..for WHATEVER reason?

Palestinians and Muslims and religious fanatics on their side have their plausible arguments too...sometimes justified and sometimes not...and these are exactly what you people are fighting over..to see which of you can win the point that your god forgives YOUR crimes, when committed in his name...thatĒs what this is about.

There are Muslims AND Christian collaborators in Iraq..but itĒs so much worse for the Christians than the Muslims. The country IS Muslim...theyĒre hardly going to wipe out their entire Muslim population because some or many of them betrayed the country to foreign occupiers and murderers of their children...they also have no way of knowing which Muslim praying at which Mosque is likely to betray them in the future...so their revenge has to be limited to those immediately responsible..but not in the United States where Americans can feel that ANY Muslim praying at a mosque in Manhattan could be a potential traitor someday and hardly anyone would seriously fault them if they wanted ALL those Muslims killed or driven out or imprisoned or subjected to enough harrassment to make them re=think their religious choice and the advisibilty of remaining among people who hate you, not for your religion or ethnicity, though they try to slander the entire Faith and People by saying "they are all just like that", to justify themselves, but for what some of you DID and they can never be sure which of you might do again, if not all of you..and since you CAN all be identified and DO stick out...why not just take you all out as well as your churches, mosques and synangogues and have some measure of "security" from THAT quarter at least?

And this is exactly what the actions of some Christians have meant for the rest of them in Iraq and elsewhere. And itĒs just as plausible and reasonable given what we know all people are prone to and none more so than Christians themselves and among those the champs at collective guilt and violence for security and love of freedom are the Americans.

In Iraq now any Christian collaborating with the Americans, whatever his or her excuse...brings collective punishment down on all Christians. How are the people of Iraq, mostly Muslims, supposed to know which Christian might betray them again? They canĒt tell which Muslim might do it and have to settle for living in doubt about their Muslim nationals..but they CAN do something about the smaller pool of Christians the Christian traitors will comes from..they can and they did and they will...and anyone in the world would do the same.

It still amazes me and is a testament to the fair mindedness and tolerance of Iraqis, no matter how much these boys of ours lie about them and seek to arouse them to vengeance against Christians in Iraq...how patient and forebearing and law=abiding Muslims have been. Even now when they have every reason to "wipe out all Christians" so they can at least eliminate one known source for collaborators and liars...they donĒt...choosing instead to issue warnings first and strike after those have been ignored..probably because of a misplaced trust in American Christians on the part of our own, as we hear those people constantly crying out.."Where are the Americans to protect us"? Anyone who thinks America is in the "Protecting Darkies Business" hasnĒt been very alert and believes Clint Eastwood.

If we realized our plight...knew our REAL recent history...recognized our own actions that brought retribution...wrong or right...weĒd be far more careful not to give the slightest excuse to be singled out..as we are so easily set apart due to our own actions and status...and that would mean being careful NOT to go to work for the Christians attacking and killing our neighbors, let alone our own children, 27,000 of them and counting. The argument that they would come kill us anyway is nonsense because they ARENĒT and never have...not as a policy...mass killings take place in America, not other countries that are at all advanced and they are carried out by deranged people..not politicians...only American politicians in these last years have carried our mass killings against people..the Iraqi government never has...except under great provocation as when the CIA pays people and makes promises to them if they will start an "indigenous" uprising..for foreign pay...as they have done repeatedly.

If someone was encouraging and paying Seminole Native Americans to take guns and GET their rights to the state of Florida, as promised trhem by a treaty they still have, you can bet theyĒd be rounded up and shot while escaping...look at what the government of this Christian nation did to 90 innocent civillians in Waco, Texas, fifteen of them children..because of an outstanding warrant for a traffic violation against ONE man..they went in and created a situation that justified their killing 90 people..imagine what they would do to 500 Seminoles receiving arms from Libya to take back Florida?

Is this a "liberal" argument or simply the truth...including a reasonable assessment of how the vast majority of us would react?

But we know this..we know the boys arenĒt trying to save Assyrians or BetNahrain...they know what their actions mean and they WANT those Christians killed...you can tell thatĒs their main agenda when they refuse to weep or protest over 27,000 Assyrian children done to death by their Christian Masters, OBVIOUSLY being a dead Assyrian most cruelly done to detah isnĒt the real concern for the boys....whose goal is the same...slander Islam and kill Muslims...thatĒs the real agenda of these lovers and weepers of our nation..thatĒs why youĒll never find them building anything or doing anything Assyrian to "save" this dear heritage bullshit of theirs..they don"t WANT the Assyrian Heritage to flourish, they want it to die in ignominuous obscurity and neglect so their Jesus can reign supreme and the only way they get there is by having all real Assyrians killed or slandered and driven away and all the rest of the Christians who wonĒt join up with them killed too....and when they canĒt come out in the open and kill their own people ON their own, but have to get someone else to do it for them, they believe in doing this they are engaged in a heavenly war to get justice for Jesus who they think was unfairly thrown out of the MidEast when it was the fucking Romans no one wanted any longer, them AND their state religion.

The boys want Christians killed..thatĒs the long and the short of it..that"s why those killed inconveniently are never mentioned because not only do they serve no "useful" purpose, but theyĒre bad for business...bad for the Franchise, bad for the Christian Faith that they credit with "Saving" them..well, it didnĒt save 27,000 of our children..it killed them as surely as it led indirectly to our losses in Turkey and elsewhere and it will go on killing as many more as it feels like...and never a word of protest will be uttered by these "Patriots" and "Nationalists"...because itĒs what they want too.

...anyone gonna invite me into his house?



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