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- Sunday, August 8 2004, 22:36:19 (CEST) from  USA Educational -  Windows XP -  Internet ExplorerWebsite: Website title: |
"It's like living with a 6 year old." I don't feel like responding to GS because he's just going to try to change the topic to something else and refuse to answer my questions. I'm even having to fight the urge to correct his spelling and grammar. : ) What a waste of time it is to argue with these people.... Let's face it - they'll never come around. They'll stay like this until a missile is aimed at them. Not that I wish that on anyone, but I accept that I can't change another person - change, for these and most people, has to come from the inside and from life experience. ----------------------------------------- Written by GS on 07 Aug 2004 22:58:56: As an answer to: "A Church Rocked to its Ancient Foundations" written by Jo on 07 Aug 2004 18:53:19: Published on Friday, August 6, 2004 by the Globe and Mail / Canada A Church Rocked to its Ancient Foundations by Leilah Nadir George W. Bush and Tony Blair claim to have made the world a safer place by invading and occupying Iraq. Whether they have remains to be seen. ***They liberated Iraq and Iraq is a sovereign nation, not a fascist nation.*** What is certain is that they have rendered Iraq far, far more unsafe for the average Iraqi, and my own Christian relatives in particular. ***Speaking out of emotion and personal feelings. Don’t get me wrong, but there are 25 million other Iraqi people also.*** Refugee officials in Damascus now estimate that Iraqi Christians, about 3 per cent of the country's total population, make up 20 per cent of Iraqi refugees in Syria. ***Things happen it is very unfortunate and sad. The future is not for the faint at heart.*** If you think about how hard life was under Saddam Hussein's regime, to have made it so much worse seems particularly horrendous and irresponsible. ***It is irresponsible to say life was better under Saddam*** It's impossible for me to understand how postwar planning for Iraq never included (and still does not include) guarding the huge Iraqi border with Iran, Syria, Jordan, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. ***Ask the lift wing Michael Moorons who would cry blasphemy if we send more troops also ask Canada why they to pitch and help in the burden too.*** *** Al Quada could have and still can hit the CN Tower in Toronto. What would the Canadians do? Either ask us to help them or surrender the Gov. to the terrorists just like Spain did…by the way Spain is still on Al Quada hit list even after they withdrew the troops from Iraq. Stupid, stupid move Spain! All I know show anybody you’re weakness and they will exploit it.*** I guess the war strategists didn't think there was much anti-U.S. sentiment in any of these countries that might spill over into Iraq. How can we believe the Bush/Blair line that their invasion has made the country safer? ***.001 percent does not qualify “the sky is falling”. These guys will be eliminated sooner better then later. Don’t make the whole basket look bad just because there are a few apples that are spoiled.*** I have been communicating with my Iraqi relatives in Baghdad since the war "ended" and their stories have been chilling. When I asked my cousin a few weeks ago how he was doing, he said, "Still alive." ***Thank God…*** He told me that he had been in Al-Rasheed Street to go to the Central Bank a few days previously, and the next day a bomb exploded in the exact spot where he had stood. ***Again thank God…*** "This is the second time in two weeks that this has happened to me. Someone obviously wants to kill me," he deadpanned with typical Iraqi black humour. Last Sunday, a series of co-ordinated car bomb attacks was unleashed near four churches in Baghdad and one in Mosul when the churches were packed with worshippers. Fourteen people were killed and at least 60 were injured. By a stroke of luck, that day my cousin had gone to a nearby church in Baghdad that was not hit. ***It is very sad…*** He heard the explosions though and saw all the ambulances, firemen and policemen swarming around the area. Many people he knows from the 700,000-strong Christian community sustained injuries from the attacks and from the shattered glass of the church windows. He says that all Iraqis are upset about these attacks, especially his Muslim friends who called to express their condolences saying, "We are all Iraqis, we are brothers. We are ashamed, embarrassed and sad about these atrocities." ***Iraq’s are united. The insurgents and peace haters must be brought to justice. Justice must be prevail. I am optimistic we will succeed. I believe like there is light at day.*** These attacks are meant to pit Muslims against Christians but instead seem to be uniting Iraqis. Mosques and Muslim holy places have been targeted by the terrorists already, but this is the first time in history that the Christian church has been attacked in Iraq. ***Iraqi’s will be united…you will see…they will prevail…*** Indeed, Iraq did not have a history of religiously motivated violence between Muslims and Christians until this occupation. The region's Christian communities are among the oldest in the world. When my father was growing up in Baghdad, he lived in mixed neighbourhoods, and religious differences were not at issue. The Pope has called on the United Nations to intervene to create peace in the Middle East. I searched in vain for a comment from Messrs. Blair or Bush. According to news reports, The Syriac Catholic church of Our Lady of Salvation in Karrada was bombed from a Chevrolet that drove by. ***Blame it on America because it was a Chevy*** j/k The bomb blast blew out stained-glass windows, creating a carpet of coloured fragments outside. This church is where my grandmother, my great-grandmother and my great-aunt were buried. Their graves were disturbed by damage the church sustained in the Gulf war, and now they have been bombed directly. Is there no peace even for the dead? It's even more terrifying to realize that no one knows who is responsible for the carnage. Iraqis say that it must be outsiders, because Iraqis would not attack other innocent Iraqis. But no one knows. ***come on… we all know… The Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has become a name to blame most of the attacks in Iraq on, but again, no one really knows for sure what is happening. ***we know… it is Zarqawi*** What I do know for sure is that I am watching Iraq being utterly destroyed day by day - and for what? Now Iraq is unsafe for Christians as well as everyone else. ***has she been there?*** Since the Gulf war, Iraqi Christians have been fleeing Iraq; the 700,000 that remain have become increasingly terrified for their lives. The American troops do not seem to be able to keep anyone safe. Indeed, they are not even in control of many parts of the country. ***It is up to the Iraqis…they must work together and plan their own destiny and self determination…*** A recent article by Robert Fisk charged that the cities of Baquba, Samara, Kut, Mahmoudiya, Hilla, Fallujah, Ramadi, and parts of Baghdad all are outside government authority. To Mr. Fisk, Iyad Allawi, the "Prime Minister," is little more than mayor of Baghdad. My conversations with relatives back this up: "There is no security," they say, and speak of explosions going off all the time, many of which are not reported by the international press. *** It is unfortunate that in Canada the Fox news channel is banned from there. They report the positive things that are going on Iraq where as CNN and all the other networks well not do. I wonder why? Also all of the other cable networks recently sent a complaint to News Corps owner Ruport Murdoch who ownes The Fox News Channel saying that the guys at Fox News are balanced or in other words “unbias.” ***A little history about Robert Fisk. He is a London freelance Journalist who has been living in Lebanon for the past twenty years. He is a Palestinian/Arab sympathizer (nothing wrong with that), but is anti America or Israel for that matter. He was imbedded with some other colleagues of his who were also freelancers in the Iraqi Liberation. ***Does anybody recall Iraq’s Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf. When He said “ we are surrounding the Americans and we are bombing them as we ask” What a joke. Muhammed works for Abu Dhabi T.V. What else do you expect? Hire him to do more propaganda work. Well according to the freelancers that were with Mr. Fisk, he Mr. Fisk was doing the same thing that Muhammed was doing. I can’t remember exactly, but his colleagues saw him write and heard him talk into his recorder “that the Americans are sustaining heavy casualties and they are dying left and right going into Baghdad.” Nothing can be further from the truth. We all know what happened when we reached Baghdad.*** It is intolerable to me that the foreign policy decisions of fervent Christians - as George Bush and Tony Blair claim to be - have resulted in such an atrocity against Christians. ***As Christian equals humanitarian. We are not just supposed to side with one type of people. We are all one under God. ***It is sad…but freedom is not free…it has a price… The Christian response to violence is supposed to be to turn the other cheek. One wonders how different the world situation would have been if Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair had done just that. ***This term “turn the other cheek” in which you are referring to I assume is quoted from the NV. Jesus meant this. The terminology “turn the other cheek” was a judicial manner. *** We in America use this in our civil court system. The court before takes in a civil case asks the two parties would you like to try to settle it out of court before taking up to the court. ***In the case Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair gave Saddam ample time two months exactly to disarm and leave the country. He refused under the advice from France, Germany Russia and the U.N.*** Leilah Nadir is an Iraqi-Canadian writer who lives in Vancouver. ***Canada gets there information partially. I have to Uncles that live in Toronto. The stuff they tell me they here about the U.S and George Bush would make Kerry say now wait a minute. They see stuff through the eyes of Stevie Wonder and here stuff through ear muffs. --------------------- |
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