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Posted by parhad (Guest) - Friday, September 24 2004, 18:34:56 (CEST)
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...my claim that Romans converted Paul was proven to be false...but no other evidence for how it was done has been put in its place...Paul addmitting that he was a Jew all along...makes sense...the Jews were sent running and more than likely went where there was more tolerance than they ever knew before....and only their own nastiness and evangelical boorishness ruined it for them eventually among the pagans.

There is still no evidence to support the claim that pagans converted willingly...because they were dumbstruck by the obvious truths of neo-Judaism..that never happened anywhere...not even the majority of the Jews themselves who SAW Jesus...were impressed enough to join...why the hell would pagans thousands of miles away dump their culture and religion on HEARSAY? Makes no sense..therefore it HAS to be true..if you`re a Paul "scholar" you think like that...I guess.

The thing this particular lie depends upon...is the claim of millions of converts who all of a sudden disappear from history,...into 600 graves. To NOT have these millions would seem to back up the notion that these were merely Jews who believed in Christ and got pissed off when they COULDN`T get anyone else to believe it...Paul wanted converts..that`s why he risked his neck and openned it up to gentiles. It still didn`t work..why the hell would it?

The only place they got converts was in the West and that`s because they murdered them into it. But they needed to maintain the fiction in the East, a sort of "Keep up with the Romans" sort of thing... so they said MILLIONS..at one time 80 million...peacefull, joyous converts to Christianty existed in the NON-Roman East. That`s a hell of a lot of people in so small an area..but then it too is a miracle.

My question is...on what maps, documents, or other proof does Paul rely for these figures? I accepted my error when I saw the map..not a church map, he knew better than to bring one of theirs..but a regular map that is JUST a map and serves no religious purpose. I`m certain I will admit this error as easily...if I can be shown to be wrong...as easily.

Now I`d like to see some equally neutral PROOF that they ever had the number of peaceful converts they now claim. I say it is a lie in the service of god and therefore holy..to them. To me its just a lie...but a big one because their entire claim to having won over pagans peacefully rests on the numbers...for if their congregations were merely what you`d expect to result from a lot of inbreeding and fucking among the small community..over a few hundred years, then obviously no one joined up much.

I`m sure there is evidence as convincing as the maps Paul brought...we are eager to see them. We are just as eager to hear the bullshit...by way of distracting us from this humble request.

On what is the claim to millions of converts based? Simple enough.

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