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this land is your land, this land is my land...

Posted by parhad (Guest) - Saturday, July 3 2004, 13:10:23 (CEST) from - Windows XP - Internet Explorer Website: Website title:

...one of the many points the boys never were able to address, before they decided to just slam the door, was this giving lands back to indigenous people...assuming for a minute that they are, or could prove they are. They`ve never been able to cite a single instance where such a thing has been done. Israel doesn`t count because no one gave any land away willingly...it was stolen from the Palestinians...which is what the boys are complaining about happened to them..not that land was "given back", but that it was stolen and is being kept through force of arms..which is what they claim happened to them..so if anything, the example of Israel proves my point, not theirs: that if you can make good your theft, it becomes the new reality and everyone on earth accepts it because that`s international law. If the boys could get the UN or the United States, or Israel to steal a triangle and they could hold onto it..it would be the new reality. But no one has done that or is ever likely to... No country has ever willingly voted away any part of its territory...stolen 50 years ago or 1000 years ago...and none ever will. If there was the slightest chance any one would, there are many more recent "thefts" that need rectifying first, where the original claim is far more credible and the original title proveable than the one put forward by people who insist you have to be of ONE religion to be a "people" and a "nation". The boys have no way of proving, certainly not to the satisfaction of those being asked to give back the land, that they have ay legitimate claim to make in the first place..it`s just their say-so and that hardly counts with those being asked to give up their lands ot autonomy over any part of them...and remember, by all international standards that land belongs, not to "Assyria", but to Iraq....belongs to it as legally as Manhattan belongs to America and not the indigenous natives of only 300 years ago...belongs to it as surely as Israel now belongs to Jews. That was one of their major failures, in logic and precedent I mean..so naturally the just ignored it. Well what could the littl dears do...tell the truth? --------------------- - BACK TO INDEX - REPLY - QUOTE - EDIT - DELETE -

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