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...over at aina, where they`re all on the dole....Nineve writes:

I have said this before and I will keep on repeating it,our best bid is to declare our people refugees since they aren't able to be recognized as indigenous of their own homeland

...they are NOT indigenous..not for being Chtristian, that`s absurd.

and they aren't able to get back any of their lands

..that doesn`t make them indigenous either....American Natives aren`t indigenous because they can`t get their lands back..they`re indigenous because they were here first, as far as we can tell. Christianity is not indigenous to Iraq...if you people claim you converted to it and away from Ashur then you aren`t Assyrians anyway...but more than that, we have no way of knowing if all of you didn`t come from Isreal, where Christianity WAS indigenous...no way at all. Just as you all claim that ANY Iraqi Muslim MUST have come over with the Muslim armies...any Christian in BetNahrain MUST have come with the Jews who were forced out of Jerusalem in 70 AD. It cuts both ways.

in this way the new generation of exiles will be better off than those who are now leaving on their own and being treated like no body every where they go.

...if they have skills and capacity and desire, they can do just fine anywhere they go..as most of them have. You children were crying in BetNahrain because you couldn`t get anywhere and blamed it on Islam...and when you leave the country and STILL can`t get anywhere, you blame Islam again and want to make yourselves out to be its eternal victims.

The benefits will be:

...don`t forget Food Stamps.

1- Recognition from the U.N. that the Assyrians are people who are indigenous to a land which they aren't able to even live in.

...Christians who call themselves Assyrians are living in Iraq right now and have been since the religion first came there. They have prospered and risen in government, education and the military...they even ran liquor stores safely and profitably...the ones who fared badly were you...because you were shiftless and lazy and wanted things handed to you..as you still do. You`ve made a public policy out of being shiftless. The only Christians who had problems in BetNahrain were the ones who insisted the neighbor`s house belonged to them..because they were "there first". The United Nations isn`t stupid...you are.

2- Recognition that they are refugees and as such their children will have access to education and also to financial aid.

...they are not refugees in that sense..not yet. When this domocracy allows their persecution...actually the just revenge they`ll unjustly suffer because of YOUR crimes and folly...and makes a policy of abusing them...THEN you can achieve what seems to be the best you can do...making refugees out of your own "dear" Christians and children.

3- The world will pay attention this time around for the word Assyrian and they will not shove it under the carpet like some un wanted dust as they are doing now.

..the world will NEVER pay attention. The world is NOT your Mommy...who needed to pay attention to her children more...if you lost out as a child, you lost out..the world will not take her place..the world has plentiful headaches of its own...the world didn`t pay attention to the horrible injustice of starving to death Iraqi children...if they can pass over that, believe me, they can live without bothering with you. How much more pathetic and miserable do you boys need to MAKE your "people" before you`ll realize no one cares?

4- They will be accepted as refugees in any country and they will be treated like human beings and not like now when they stay years and years in God forsaken camps where they are treated like dirt and where they beg for their papers to be accepted to one of the same western "democratic" countries who are watching the Assyrians losing their lands,villages and towns to the kur.s with the blessing of the same "democratic" countries.

...the countries that put them in camps are mostly in the MidEast...at least that was the case before you all prayed for this war and EVERY Iraqi became suspect. Once Australia was begging Iraqis and others to go live there..today they too put them in camps. They are all suspected and potential terrorists..remember? The world can tolerate Palestinians in camps for decades..it can stand to see you in them too.

Do you honestly believe that the writing of the so-called "new" Iraqi constitution will have any truth to it ???

...do you honestly believe the world will sit up and take notice if only more of you will become more miserable and whine some more?

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