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Posted by aunty christ (Guest) - Monday, October 11 2004, 17:42:06 (CEST)
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It´s sad to see Mansour and so many others buying into the notion so quickly that the United States can impose its values on countries who`ve had a very different history. Thy land here...get work, buy property and receive all of the benefits of several centuries of liberal enlightened thought that transformed Europe gradually and brought the worship of technoloigy and progress to Americva´s shores along with Slavery that almost killed us before we got started. This is vastly different than traditions and development patterns in the MidEast where a conservative clergy has managed to maintain its stranglehold much as the Inquisition and the popes of the Dark Ages kept Europe bloody and ignorant for as long as they could.

There´s no way in the world to leapfrog all of that...all of the gradual transformations which ocurred organically in the West and merely order Iraqis to get with it...modernize or else. I mean Mansour and the rest of them are barely housebroken themselves..like most of the boys they understand nothing at all about Western traditions or American democracy and the value of the Constitution...they are still old world with a thin veneer of Western culture...but they think they know the answer for Iraq....just superimpose American standards on them and they´ll be fine...besides which you can kill them with impunity because they aren´t quite human yet..not enouhg like US to really count...those who get it right, might be spared..just as the Romans allowed anyone to live who bought into Rome or Jesus..the rest were better done away with.

Actually the imposition of our way of government and beliefs is faring about as well as the imposition of Jesus ever did. In both cases it´s a bad fit..makes little sense...has no precedent in the lives and experiences and history of the native population...like Christianity, this type of democracy and introduction to Liberty American style, like religion Christian style, will be a surface phenomenom only...never actually taking hold deep dopwn and becoming the very lifeblood of the people...because both og them are foreign to every elemental instinct and impulse the people developed over millenia.

The sad truth is that no one really wanted peace...they almost all WANTED this war...for different reasons of course..but all of them saw a benefit to be gained through warfare...even against civilians. While a claim can be made that war will lead to a better way of life when you beat off an attacker...it can never be used seriously as a way to improve the lives of people YOU think need improving. War is NOT a way to teach a positive lesson in itself...

Bless Tom for trying though...but the calls for war were too great..the profit to be made from enemies too tempting and the seductive allure of controlling a population through Fear too great to be resisted.

We will pay a heavy price for this....heavier than the Iraqis have. It may never come to a similar war against us...but like all empires, the rot within will spread faster.

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An oldie but goodie... Jeff - Monday, October 11 2004, 6:40:13 (CEST)
- Re: An oldie but goodie... aunty christ - 10/11 17:42

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