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Posted by Dean (Guest) - Tuesday, October 12 2004, 4:31:42 (CEST)
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Parhad,

SO are you saying that according to Islam, pagans should be killed?

-Dean

parhad wrote:
>Dean wrote:
>>Parhad,
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>>So you don't accept the idea the Timur Lame killed many innocent people in the name of Islam?
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>...who hasn´t killed innocent people? As long as you accept that Bush is killing innocent people in the name of Christ...remember, he´s a REAL Christian...you may not like his brand of Christianity but it put meat on his table and does the killing FOR you.
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>I don´t accept that Timur killed in the NAME os Islam..in the sense that Islam gave him a mandate to kill people...people kill to conquer and for oil...that they happen to ask their god to sanctify their murders doesn´t mean the god MEANT to...except for yahwe who says right up front..."go kill people who don´t believe in me". Allah never says that and Ashur sure as hell never did...except where true pagans were concerned...never for the people of the book, Christians and Jews..this is a little lie you people love.
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>The majority of Christians killed were soldiers....in battle.
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>Give me some believable source for these absurd numbers you boys toss around...
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>>-Dean
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>>parhad wrote:
>>>Dean wrote:
>>>>Parhad,
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>>>>So the 20+ million people Timur Lame (The conquering Muslim Khan) slaughtered during the 1300's were all Christian mercenaries or Roman soldiers?
>>>
>>>...I don`t accept your version of history...sorry. Give me a non Christian source for these 20 million..on the face of it it is sheer bullshit...give me a source that tells how you ever figured out that many Christians existed or were killed..I told you, your contention that millions left their own religion for Jesus is the silliest damn lie I ever hear...that you got away with it for this long doesn`t mean it ever happened..it flatters all Christians everywhere to believe their peculiuar religion was just SO damn welcome...I don`t believe any of it...especially when I SEE and we all KNOW how many people were slaughtered in the West who would NOT accept Jesus...
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>>>Give me some goddamned proof for these ridiculous claims...from real historians not church apologists...
>>>>
>>>>-Dean
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>>>>Dean wrote:
>>>>>Parhad,
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>>>>>And howbout the millions of people slaughtered into Mohammad? That's acceptable?
>>>>
>>>>..no one being slaughtered for any reason is acceptable...but I think this is more of your church`s way of explaining away their dim showing in that region..it turns out that almost all of those killed by Muslims were Christian mercenary or Roman soldiers who were about as Christian as Bush is...that is not an apt comparison at all...we`re talking about innocent natives who welcomed Christian evangelists and got killed for their pains...Islam has no equivalent to you evangelising pains in the ass...I don`t buy church figures for ANYTHING...I want some other proof that the pagans Islam killed were killed for refusing Islam...and not for other reasons..also let`s settle this once and for all...the heathens and idolaters and pagans mentioned in Islam are NOT Christians OR Jews...let`s make that clear...give me an instance in HISTORY not Theology when CHRISTIANS were forced into Islam...one will do...and remember, your statements count for nothing unless you have REAL evidence....no church games.

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