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Re: THE INSIDE ASSYRIA FAQ, v 1.11
Posted by Jeff (Guest) - Monday, November 29 2004, 6:33:23 (CET)
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THE INSIDE ASSYRIA FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
v. 1.0 2004/11/20

(Editor's Note: This is an attempt to examine just one
question/issue...abortion...for our FAQ. I'm sure we will add more and more
and more very soon. Feel free to add your own in response to this message,
or add any comments/suggestions)

Q: "How do you feel about Abortion? Is it not baby-murder, a sin, and
forbidden by God/Jesus Christ?"

[i] A: The Coalition of Assyrians that Think Freely (CATF, hehehe!) believe
that the abortion issue is really a ruse used to control women and to claw
back all the rights gained over the past 4 decades.

On the abortion issue, a wise man once said: "The simplest way to untangle this non-issue, is to ask what the Law would be if men were the ones to get pregnant. NEXT."

But, instead of just moving on, we have decided to take the high road and answer many of the non-points that anti-choice advocates espouse.

* If we go back to the days when abortion was illegal and dangerous and deadly...women will still get them. And many will bleed to death in back alley rooms.

* No one is advocating abortions as a contraceptive for chrissakes!!!

* When the penalty for adultry was to be tied togethjer and thrown into a river...people still fucked...and many drowned right after. But since that day, men made it a lot easier to screw around.

* Religious people will not admit it, but they think a woman who screws around and gets pregnant AND goes looking for an abortion DESERVES to die! Just as many of them feel that AIDS is the cure for Homosexuality....until their "innocent" non-lesbian daughter gets it.

* When this country, and the Christians in it, stop executing criminals...including those who are retarded or committed crimes as juveniles...when it recognizes a woman's right to NOT be raped and abused in marriage and allows her to shoot the bastard when he wont quit and the system asks for more "proof"...when the country stops its murder of the dark and lovely children of other people...when it takes an interest in a living child as it pretends to do in that mass of jelly...THEN come crying about human rights and the tenderness of motherhood.

* It's the goddamn father in all of these instances who has stacked the world in his favor. If it doesn't work out quite the way he would like it...so he can get the entire cake AND the icing AND the cherry on top...tough shit for him.

* Remember...God has been a man since recorded HIS-STORY. When he didn't know enough to piss down his arm...he was afraid of and revered woman...couldn't figure out how she made more human beans all by herself. His limp dick was hardly the stuff of epic literature.

* The minute he figured out he had something to do with it...he took over the entire show and said the woman was just a garden where he placed the entire human bean for her to weed and water. Much later he found out how little he had to do with it...and that woman could go all night while he could barely manage it once...and then he invented marriage and "fidelity"...for her.

* Any argument against abortion is just that same old white devil and his minions...none of whom like women or give a hoot in hell for the child.

(How's that for a start?)

Future topics should include, but not be limited to:

--= Our "Identity =--
--= Iraq's history, ancient and modern =--
--= Christianity (aka Plagairized Mesopotamian Myth) =--
--= GOOD Assyrians vs. BAD Assyrians =--
--= more to come... =---

Tiglath wrote:
>The Church of the East also forced people into Christianity
>
>Disruption of Religious Peace - Quote 1
>A History of Christianity in Asia, Samuel Moffett
>Volume 1 - Beginnings to 1500
>p. 159, Paragraph 2
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>About 420 an alarmed Zoroastrian high priest came before Yazdegerd to complain that Christian evangelism was inducing mass apostasy from the state religion. The Christian cause was not helped by some arrogant attacks on fire temples by sincere but fanatical Christians, the most violent of whom were often converts from Zoroastrianism. The Shah could scarcely ignore open desecration of the state temples and the destruction of religious peace in his realm. He empowered the Zoroastrian clergy to persuade apostates from the national religion to renounce their conversion to Christianity and return to the faith of the empire "Not, however, by death, but by fear and a certain amount of beating."
>
>NOTE
>Dr. Samuel Moffett, Professor Emeritus at Princeton Theological Seminary, historian and a Christian missionary, makes this quote from his own book. What the paragraph tells the reader is that the Persians were tolerating the Church of the East and Christianity in their Empire until they began not only forcing their religion onto others BUT attacking the fire temples of Zoroastrian worshippers!
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>Moffett himself states "The Shah could scarcely ignore open desecration of the state temples and the destruction of religious peace in his realm."
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>It was Christianity and Church of the East brand that was disrupting the Persian Empire. What is amazing is the way in which the Shah handles the law breakers. He doesn't have them all annihalated as biased Christian history would imply, but he actually attempts to use pursuasion with them and the most extreme measures he is willing to use with the Christians is beatings. If it was the Church of the East, according to a Christian missionary like Moffett, who was destroying religous tolerance and peace in the Persian Empire then one can only wonder at what was truly happening in through a Perisan perspective.
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>Disruption of Religious Peace - Quote 2
>Later in the reign of Yazdegerd, the Persian bishop, Abdas of Susa destroyed a Zoroastrian temple in the city; the king ordered the bishop to restore the building at his own expense. Abdas refused and the result was the order by the king to destroy all churches.
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>Source: A Brief History of Christianity in Iran, By Massoume Price, December 2002
>
>NOTE
>What this next post demonstrates is that the attack on a Zoroastrian fire temple was a full fledged violent attack that resulted in the DETSRUCTION of a religous Zoroastrian temple. And leading it is not a group of fanatic, recently converted Christians, who were formerly Zoroastrians, as the slightly biased Moffett implies, but leading it is none other than a Bishop for of the Church of the East!
>
>And on top of it all the tolerant King Yazdegerd asks that the Bishop follows in King Hammurabi's ancient laws andd gives and eye for an eye and pays for the rebuilding of the temple he has ordered destroyed. Only after the Bishop's refusal are the Christian churches destroyed for having disrupted religous peace and tolerance throughout the Persian Empire.
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>Pax Mongolica
>The Roman Catholic Church became the state religion of the Roman Empire. The term Pax Romana, was Latin for "the Roman peace", and this long period of "peace" was experienced by states within the Roman Empire not by Christian missionaries walking barefoot to Gaul, but by the fact that Roman rule and its legal system pacified regions which had suffered from the quarrels between rival leaders, forcefully.
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>And where its army went the priests soon followed and imposed their religion on the people forcefully.
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>Recently it has been revealed that their co-religionsists in the Church of the East courted the Mongols hoping to become the state religion of the entire East. They were in essence attempting to marry into the Mongolian dynasty and form a Pax Mongolica according to Samuel Moffett's History of Chrisitnaity in Asia - Volume 1.
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>This explains why the Church of the East consecrated Mar Yaballaha III - a Mongolian - who ruled the Church of the East from 1281 until his death in 1318. THey deliberately consecrated a Mongolian as head of the Church of the East in order to curry favour with the Mongolians and become the state religion of Pax Mongolica.
>
>More evidence that the Church of the East actively courted the Mongolian Empire us revealed through marriage customs at the time. During that period anyone wishing to strike alliances with other foreign powers would marry into their family. It explains why one of Genghis Khan's wives was a Nestorian. The Pax Romana was used by the church to convert all of Europe and beyond to Christianity. In the East likewise the Nestorian priests who travelled to India and China used the Mongolian Empire at the time and the stability it brought with it to spread Christianity. Pax Mongolica one of the most bloodiest periods in world history was not only used by the Church of the East to head East BUT the Church of the East also desperately sought to become the state religion of this vast Empire proving that it wasn't for lack of trying that the Church of the East didn't become as bloody and violent as it's Western counterpart.
>The same barbaric Mongol hordes who raised a minuurat of 70,000 heads in Baghdad in 1401 would eventually have gone down the same path of their Western co-religionsist in the West and used violence and war to further the aims of the Church of the East. There very well may have been an Inquisition, pogroms against non-believers and crimes against humanity committed by the Mongols but supported by the Church of the East had the Mongolians actually accepted Christianity as their state religion.
>The Church of the East was courting the Mongols, one of the bloodiest and most barbaric of world conquerors the world has ever seen with the hope that they would eventually become the state religion of this vast Mongolian Empire. Therefore because this did not happen we can only prove that the Church of the East committed violent attacks and religous intolerance in certain incidents during its long history. Acts that would've set the precedent for even more had their courtship with the Pax Mongolica achieved fruition.

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THE INSIDE ASSYRIA FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
v. 1.11 2004/11/29
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Part 3:
Q: Did you support or oppose the Sanctions on Iraq from 1991-2004?

A: We opposed the sanctions and we believe that they are tantamount to genocide.

Hitler succeeded in killing at least 2 million Children during his reign of terror. The Sanctions killed at least 1.5 million Iraqis by conservative United Nations estimates, with at least 500,000 of those being children.

The sanctions were supposedly designed to make Iraqis angry and rebel against Saddam. In reality, they made Iraqis weaker and helped solidify Saddam's position in power. As we may recall, over 75% of Iraq was out of Saddam's hands after the first gulf war in an open rebellion. Iraqis were urged by the US to rebel against Saddam, and were promised to be backed up by US reinforcements. When the time came, Saddam asked the US for permission to use helicopter gunships to crush the rebellion, and the US reinforcements never arrived. As a result, the rebellion was brutally crushed and Saddam regained complete control of the country. It makes you wonder if they had this current war profiteering exercise in mind when they made that decision.

The sanctions prevented critical equipment from reaching water treatment facilities, and prevented school children from having lead, as both of these examples (and countless others) were "dual use" items. Hospitals were without medicine, etc. The examples are endless and horrific.

There is not one positive outcome that resulted from the sanctions, except that certain people were able to Oil-for-blood (ahem, I mean, "oil-for-food") in a program that was abused by many and that benefitted everyone BUT the average Iraqi. So, it was only a positive benefit for rich businesspeople.

The sanctions truly were a silent genocide. Shame on the Assyrians who supported them, and may Ashur bless those (especially Chaldeans) who opposed them.

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... Now who is ready to add to this and upgrade it from version 1.11 to 1.12?



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