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@@@@ ok..here I go.. ******* What is mountain belati Tiglath....and is there a prairie bilati too ???? With our people i'm sure there is. By the way ..you cant be more mountaineer then Alqoshniye ..can you.? I want to see you dance bilati better then me....... i'm a daughter of mountaineers.... and ONLY in dreams can you take reshit khiga from me... ...... ........ .......... :) jk >>>Hehehehe……I believe that YOU believe that you can out Belati me. @@@@@..... one day...well see ...i'm going to remind you of this conversation.. Anyway..what type of Chaldeands do you guys have in Australia? >>>Most of our Chaldean people in Melbourne are from Zakho. You know Dalale, Dalale, Dalaleh, Dalale noshowlah jareh…… @@@@@Yes we have Zakhonaye too. Over here in the Windsor/Detroit area, we have the sincerely rich, historically creative, and confused kind, who want to work for their nation, have some kind of nationalism burning in their soul, but feel disrespected by other sides, and hence don't get the whole Assyrian part. >>>Our Chaldeans are the genuine and sincere type but unfortunately at times the easily swayed type. They’re still grappling with this whole identity issue. I think it’s great that many of them have begun to work with us in assisting all our people. @@@@@@IDENTITY, everyone is struggling with it...the whole world, not just "Assyrians", "Chaldeans", "Syriacs"...and so on and so forth... Or actually they used to get the Assyrian part a long time ago, but having learned some kind of lesson decided they don't want to go down that route again. Sometimes I cant even blame them. I have met the types of "Assyrians" who I jk'd about in the tribal jk that I posted. Not sure if you read it. Anyway...... Then there are the others who consider themselves true Assyrians even....I mean we weren't sprinters back then..were we..or did we really used to sprint up and down from Babylon ..as has been said?? >>>Actually during the rule of Sargon of Akkad the northern tribes were all united and the capital was moved to Babylon and his empire was known as the Babylonian Empire way before it became the Assyrian Empire. So both identities are correct, just as anyone calling themselves Sumerian or Arab would be correct. @@@@@@..A Babylonian identity is not historically wrong, but if this "Babylonian" identity only means securing seats in Rome for the clergy of the Catholic Church, then there IS something wrong, since then the issue has nothing to do with IDENTITY. If our people are truly from the last dynasty of Babylon>>>great, nothing wrong with that. On the other hand, using this identity for other purposes, purposely deceiving ordinary people, who have the free will to each choose their identity individually, and not on mass, for one person, or a groups glory, seems questionable . @@@@@Then again, there are so many sides to this dilemma. I also question how the Assyrian identity is being used in the same type of way. It seems to me that everyone just wants to secure their own seats, and “it” has nothing to do with Babylon or Assyria or honolulu. This is the reason why I never join any organizations>>>>I don't want to be forced into any of the bull. I’m no politician anyway believe me, I’m a spiritual person…so maybe I know nothing about politics…who knows. I’m just an ancient wizard who likes to dwell in the wilderness. @@@@@Anyone who wants to solve the Mesopotamian IDENTITY CRISIS (if any mortal man/woman can) should look up a person named Pierre Trudeau, a former Canadian Prime Minister, who implemented the "Multicultural Policy within a Bilingual Framework" in Canada. He did this to solve the ongoing problems between French/English Canadians, Natives, and immigrants residing in Canada. Of course, not suprisingly, he was a student of the humanities (which even Canadian universities are now cutting the funding for..since we don't want to creat humans anymore ...rather robots..all whom major in business!), and as all humanitarians, he would have never forced one specific identity on people who each have their own rich heritage. Anyway, the world is changing now, I know Zoroastrians who call themselves Russians, and Africans who want to be French etc. It’s not the same anymore, because people seem to chose whatever identity they like. @@@@@ I have nothing against Babylonians, Sumerians, Assyrians, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Canaanites, Celts, Mayans, Incas, Akkadians, Arabs etc. Ancient identities are more profound. Besides it wouldn’t seem so, but the ancient world was much closer nit then what we are today. Although the advancement of technology has brought us “closer” and this place is now called a "global village", I’m not too sure. From the hanging gardens of Babylon, to the Library of Ashurbanipal, all the way to the famous Phoenician cities Balbak, Carthage, to Stonehenge, the Pyramids, and the valleys of the Yucatan, there was a connection, one we can only dream of today! Once all the descendants of these peoples find the CONFIDENCE in their own IDENTITY as Trudeau suggested, and through this find RESPECT for OTHERS identity, we can all SHARE ATTITUDES and ASSUMPTIONS, and CONTRIBUTE to a richer life FOR ALL Middle Easterners, Mesopotamians, and Earthlings. @@@@@Trudeus Multiculturalism Policy: "National Unity, if it is to mean anything in the deeply personal sense, must be founded on confidence in one's own individual identity; out of this can grow respect for that of others and a willingness to share attitudes and assumptions. . . . and so contribute to a richer life for all.” (Trudeau cited in Berry, 1984, p.354). ....And guess what? A lot of these that I have described, are all from one family!...Funy thing is, I know all of them and they are all good people, and can dance one hell of a belati. You guys must not have Alqoshniye in Sydney...real ones like me :). >>>And you guys must not have Tkhumnaye who can out belati you in the US. @@@@@@We salute you nashed Tkhume! --------------------- |
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