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Posted by the devil (Guest) - Thursday, June 9 2005, 15:56:46 (CEST)
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>@@@@@@@@@@ Well, I promised not to post here since my Jesus posts are unwelcome.

...yes...I got a tight feeling around my throat when you said you would no longer post...and now that youīre posting again, I got a tight feeling somewhere else.


I could and would post about Assyrianism or the Ancient history of Iraq here, because I don't see anything wrong with discussing about it, but I might steal all your fans. Your the one who doesn’t consider me an Assyrian anyway because I’m a Christian... right? We did say sayonara, what happened? Miss me?

...people are forever walking in and out on me and slamming doors...since you walked back in Iīd say you missed the devil. No one has tried harder to NOT have fans in Assria.
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>..they`re somethin ain`t they? They have this thing called EVIL...now you`d think criminality would be enough..a guy kills someone..you haul his ass off to jail and either kill or imprison him...simple no? But that won`t do..not for old yahwe..he of the fried testicles. Over in Sodom they were inventing things he didn`t approve of...maybe there was no law against their namesake yet...but he doesn`t tell them to make laws and punish the guilty, as Hammurabi worked out..not him...he tips them all into the pit...even children and those who never dreamed of such things..for there was EVIL in the land.
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>@@@@@@@@@@@@ I already told you that I don't think your evil, so I’ll skip this part.

...I wasnīt directing it at you entirely..but you did raise the question of Evil...and I just wanted to say that the most evil person I ever met was the father of your Jesus. Take it up with him...he should be easy to find...look around the earth for where children are suffering and dying needlessly..and youīll find him busy at work teaching their parents a lesson...sort of like he did in Iraq.
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>The invention of EVIL allows you to not only haul the actual criminal off to jail..but you can drag his wife and his babes, parents and siblings off too...because they are of the same TREE....and will turn out to just grow up and join Al Qaida anyway...so get them early.
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>@@@@@@@@@@ I have a lot of Muslims friends, and I don't think Muslim people are evil, so I don't know what you mean.

...I know as a Christian you have a fondness for yourself, probably have to since the rest of the people on the planet despise you people so...but you are not the center of the universe.


I have heard of Muslim people who have acted in evil ways when they killed Assyrian-Christians in genocides etc,

..thatīs a crime...a crime will do...Evil lets you kill the children of criminals.

but I also think that it was evil of Christians to stand by and watch Assyrians die in Simele,

...you forgot to mention how despicable it is to be taken into a Muslim country, while fleeing another Muslim country...and then turning on your hosts and saviors at the behest of the same Christians who betrayed you in the first place.

and to murder most of the Native American, and to conduct crusades where they also killed Christians of the Middle East, because they couldn’t tell a Muslim Palestinian and a Christian Palestinian.

...Bush canīt be bothered to tell the difference between Muslims either.

If a person is truly evil it has little to do with their religion.

..it has everything to do with it for religions invented Evil...secular governments have enough to do combating crime...Evil is beyond the police and unecessary..as I said, itīs the Churchīs excuse to kill the children of heathens...they are Evil JUST because they are not Christians.

I'm not a psychologist by any means, so I don't know what makes a person truly "evil",

...nothing. Evil doesnīt exist and is unecessary...doesnīt do a damn bit of good or improve anything...if an action is particularly heinous..then call it that...that still localizes it on the perpetrator and ONLY on him or her...what Evil does is let you take out the innocent as well..because youīve made yourself so hysterical and frightened...you wonīt stop with the criminal...because the children of an EVIL person will surely grow up EVIL, thus saith your Lord...so take them out early, as He has done zillions of times..and Christians will sleep better...had all the adults over 40 in Iraq been convicted of murder, no one would have thought of killing their children...but, even though the adults of Iraq did NOTHING...calling them EVIL allowed you to kill their children...and the band played on and Christians shopped for presents.

but I know that the word should be used carefully. I guess it's easy for people to label a whole society as evil. I don't generalize in that way.

...you already have. Something evil must have made you do it.
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>Evil is what allowed Bush to attack Iraq...for there was no criminality anywhere..in fact, as is usual, the crimes were all committed by the RIGHTEOUS people...who then called everyone EVIL who protsted and fought back for Justice..and that allowed them to take out the wives and children too.
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>@@@@@@@@@ Were you pro-Saddam? Do you think he was a good president? How did he treat his people? Don't you think in the next 50 years the Iraqi people will be able to rebuild, and have a better life?

...not at all. Saddam was the usual run of the mill tyrant the United States uses and then discards...there is no question that he did things we do not approve of..but no worse than any pope or Christian king did..or several presidents of the United States, including this one..who is far more the international criminal than Saddam ever dreamed of being.

...Under Saddam Iraq was an advanced and rapidly advancing country, for the MidEast...women had it better than in any other Muslim country and better than most have it in America..you really shouldnīt believe what Christians tell you about life in Iraq during Saddam...the problem of those countries is the number of ethnic groups and religious groups they have contained in a small area..the Shah had the same problem..letīs see how easy it is for a "democracy" now...this war on Iraq was never intended to improve anything but the bottom line of several American corporations..to believe otherwise is to believe youīll live on a cloud forever some day..talk about a dumb heaven!

..those countries actually tried to accomodate all ethnic groups and the nuts in them...like America, they should have just killed eveyone different and sent the children all to schools to be melted in a pot...those countries allowed diversity..but nut cases always pushed and pushed...they tried to KEEP their distincness and not get melted...but Christians, both inside and out, wouldnīt allow it. Ottoman Turkey was the ONLY place that tried to accomodate all three of them..and look what Christians did to it in the end. Said it was a "sick old man", and that was all the justification they needed to put it out of its misery...thatīs the Christian way of treating old folks...rich ones anyway.
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>Which brings us to the "Assyrian" orphans..another ploy of these Christian slimeballs...they never mentioned the murdered Christian children...or their murdered parents..but they come to us now, dripping with Christian charity and concern for the poor little tykes who managed to escape CHRISTIAN murder...
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>@@@@@@@@@@ I don't know the story about the murdered Christian children. What happened, who killed them?

...Christians, who else? Why would Iraqis kill their own children? At least 27,000 died, along with the 600,000 Muslim children under the age of FIVE, never mind their older brothers and sisters who are scarred forever by witnessing their siblings die of disease and starvation..prolonged because Christians cut off the supply of medicine too..it was called "Sanctions"...maybe you were praying and didnīt notice.
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>Let`s see if I got this right...Christians decided to improve the lot of Christians in Iraq..get rid of EVIL and secure oil fields...and of course our boys, ever ready to kill AND kiss Christian ass, said it was a marvellous idea, why didn`t they think of it...that surely an attack by the same foreign Christians who attacked the last time and "improved" conditions no end...would be even BETTER this time around, ewspecially with them all in London or Sweden expressing their "love" for their dear homeland by insisting OTHERS stay and pay for it...so they sat cheering while the children of Iraq were slowly starved to death...at the rate of 5000 a month for thirteen years..sort of like monthly payment on heaven...so much down, so much a month...so much blood of Innocents for them to wash in and they`re HOME FREE!
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>@@@@@@@@ Tell me, who was FOR the embargo on Iraq? Maybe half of the world was at the beginning, but I’m sure that 99.9% of Christian-Assyrians were against it! Why would they want an embargo on Iraq?

...Christians outside of Iraq were desperate for it...as was Kendoll..because anything that puts the screws to Christians inside Iraq, means more members.
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>Now that the country is in ruins...they feel sorry for the little ones who survived their Christian Crusade and come, cross in hand, saying they really should DO something for all the poor kids who managed to survive THEIR WAR!!! And we`re all supposed to respond with,,,"ahhhh...those Christians are SO tender hearted and Christlike".
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>As long as Christians were tarring and feathering EVEY Muslim..tagging them all with the title of TERRORIST..it was okay with the "good ones"..among whom Mz Abbey is one of the best! Even a tenderhearted guy like KenDoll can twist and lie but still he`s good...because he brings water to dying people...people he helps get killed with his lies.
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>@@@@@@ Aha, so you’re saying that I think it's ok to call all Muslims terrorists?

...no, you just refuse to see that all Christians are terrorists.

If I thought that, I wouldn't be flying to the Middle East to talk to people of various religions! Actually if I did think that, I would never go to visit the Middle East ever again, everyone in the plain would be terrorist right?

...right. Terrorists visit terrorists all the time..they are social people.
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>BUT...as soon as we even up the score and take a page from their game plan...by calling ALL Christians to account and JUST calling them Christian..without any regard to which is which or HOW good...just as the United States felt completely righteous going after Iraqis for what Saudis did to them...as soon as we want to be FAIR...they come out yelling that we HATE them!!!
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>@@@@@@@@ Your not the fairest person on the planet, and its definitely not fair of you to say that I for example, am not Assyrians because I am Christian.

...if you believe in monotheism, you have to choose ONE god...you can be Italian Christian or German Christian...you can Jewish American or an English Jew...because those combined names have only ONE god in them...you canīt be Jewish Christian. There is no country named Assyria..for all your fantasies..besides which, in the day when there WAS an Assyria...the names of countries often included the names of the main god...that is no longer the case, except for Israel and even they were careful not to call it Jewland...you can be Assyrian American..but you canīt be Assyrian Christian, itīs a contradiction in terms..you either follow Ashur, as the name "ASHUR-ian implies..or you follow Christ, as "CHRIST-ians indicates...it is your insistance on being monotheistic that rules out the possibility of being ASHURian CHRISTian.

I've always represented my Assyrian heritage wherever I went all throughout my youth and until this day.

...you represented one sect of a dizzying aray of Christian sects...you can call it Assyrian if you like, but Assyrians were never Christians..not when they WERE Assyrians..itīs no accident the period of their greatest growth and development, as well as their inspired beginnings were under the name of ASHUR..and that all Christ has done for them is make them look forward to getting off this planet...and for good reason, it is an embarrassment to be an "Assyrian" today.

When people ask me what nationality I am, I say Assyrian, when they ask for my religion I say Christian.


..then you are foolish. There is no nationality of Assyrian...no such thing, no such nation.

>Anyway, say whatever you want, it's still wouldn't be true that all there is to Christian-Assyrians is Christianity. I am Assyrian and I'm confident in my identity.

...so are 4578 Napoleons in several mental institutions around the world..try to talk THEM out of it.
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>If that`s true..then we`re merely returning the obvious hatred they feel for all Muslims...Abbey`s tears notwithstanding.
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>@@@@@@@@ I don't sit and cry rivers for anyone, if I did, then I’d be crying 24 hours a day. This world is full of injustices, I can think of a thousand examples. It really does not makes any sense to me. It’s a no win situation. And by the way, I’m a person of action. You studied art so you could create art, I chose my specific studies so that I can work for peace and a better tomorrow for all, not just for Christians. Now you will accuse me of being poetic again…

...good for you.
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>@@@@@@@ Not all Assyrians hate all Muslims. I've met Muslim people who are wonderful, educated, interesting, kind, generous, creative individuals. To be honest I can't really think of one Muslim person who I have met in real life who turned out to be mean spirited. I went to a public high-school and was one out of only 20 Assyrian-Chaldean Christians in the school. We never had problems with any of the Muslim students. We were all friends. Then again Mr. Parhad, I never lived in the Middle East, or in Iraq, so I don't know what kind of Muslims live there.

...same kinds of people that live everywhere.

- I'm not saying that they deserve to die, or that they are not human beings, and that it wouldn't be great to live in peace. LOOK, I don't necessarily approve of what the rest of the world does. All I know is that I’m not one to discriminate based on religion. I love my culture, my history, my religion, but I can see beyond it all, and I’ve said to you a million times that I don't really feel an affinity with my people, I barely even lived around them, it's with my ancestors that I feel the affinity, and they are what have kept me Assyrian.

..me too. But I see the lies too...there are far more Muslim Assyrians than Christian ones..and the fact that they DONīT talkalotaboutit may be the BEST part of being Assyrian.
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>@@@@@@@@@I've met Muslims who have as much love for the ancient history of Iraq as I do. I knew a Muslim guy who went to Wayne State University who used to know all the tales of the Sumerians, and he was Iraqi. Funny thing is that he denounced his religion, and used to call himself Sumerian ONLY. Now I wonder, if all people who find their ancient identity, including Muslims, would denounce their religion like him.

....up to them. There is nothing at all wrong with Islam...it is the same fearful fanatics in all three sisters from hell who are tearing up the world...but Christians more than any.
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>@@@@@@@You want us to denounce Christianity, do you tell the same story to Muslims, that they should only be Assyrian and nothing else? If that is the case, it would make sense, and maybe even be fair.

...I never told people to give up anything...I just ask questions.

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>These people lie, cheat, steal AND murder...but if you point it out to them...YOU are HATEFUL and must have something AGAINST THEM...go figure.
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>@@@@@@@@I've told white lies, so have you, I’ve never cheated... I was in the habit of stealing candy from a small store in a small village in Lebanon when I was little, I’ve never killed anyone... I’ll let you know when I do... I have never been described as hateful, and if I had that hatred mentality, you would be the first one I would hate.

...me, Iīm loveable...itīs the devil in me.



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