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Re: having fun with sense
Posted by pancho (Guest) - Friday, March 11 2005, 14:20:33 (CET)
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Wonderer wrote:
>And now..just to play along with these people..let`s imagine for some strange reason the Romans just couldn`t bring themselves to actually nail him to the cross...a sudden crisis of conscience..and they wouldn`t let the Jews do it either..and there the world stood...all those yammering Christians eager to get into heaven and out of this vale of tears...and also scared to death of the hell and Devil they regaled their children with...and NO ONE was willing to nail that sucker to a tree!!!
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>>>> Your statement doesn't hold water.

...and a heaven on a cloud does?

...that was easy, wasn`t it? Like I said...we don`t ban people around here..they shut themselves up and then in time take themselves away.
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>Those who followed Jesus were mostly Jews and even those who weren't Jews were not called Christians then.

...no one converted to Jesus BUT Jews. It is your fable that people round the world fell all over themselves to join up at just the sound of his name. In the East and to this day, they are all descendants of the Jews who believed Jesus was the Messiah,,,and in the West the people were murdered into Jesus plain and simple.
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>The first time that the followers of Jesus were called Christians was in Antioch.

...that didn`t come till almost 100 years latrer...Jesus was a Jew, he wasn`t a Christian. Assyrians did not convert to Christianity..if that is what they claim..they converted to Judaism.
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>The word Christ which is Msheekha in Assyrian simply means some one who is annointed with oil.

...that still doesn`t answer the question of why you people had to have him murdered..or no heaven for you. Talk about oily.
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>Even our ancestors the ancient Assyrians

...you can say it as often as you like...the Assyrians of old are NOT your ancestors..the Jews are.

believed in heaven and hell,good and evil and that's why they commemorated year after year the death of Dimuzi and celebrated his rise from hell(death) to heaven(life).

...Like you said..these beliefs were common and widespread..so was kindness and goodness and selflessness...none of these are Christian. The only thing that Christianity brought was the idea of a Messiah, which was Jewish and NEVER Assyrian..that and ritual human sacrifice...which was Hebrew..and cannibalism, vampirism and the idea of the scapegoat..which was literally a baby goat, the cleanest and the purest...on whose unoffending back all the sins of the villagers were placed, another of your "symbolic" idiocies..who was then driven out of the village and into the desert with sticks and stones and nails and hammers..there to die "for the sins of the people"...after which the Hebrews could get back to their fun and games till next year...which is excatly what you people use Jesus for..used him then and use him today...the world is no better for Jesus having lived..all the crimes and uglies have multiplied a thousand fold and most of those were perpetuated by the Church itself over 1000 years of Dark Ages, or by kings and queens using the Church for exactly that reason...people were far more civilized back then as we can see from what they built and created...

It is a religion of murder...or ritual human sacrifice...of cannibalism and blood...of people learning to take the goods and not ask how they got them. If you do that on earth..if you agree to accept the goods that can come to you ONLY from the murder of an innocent...you are an accessory to the crime...as are all of the people who agree to accespt heaven at such a price...and that`s why they eat flesh and drink blood...to join the gang...to be partners in the crime.

Had I been around back then I would have told Jesus to skip this nonsense and let`s take our chances on earth. He never asked to be killed or eaten...the Romans MADE him into such a pouf and whacko. He was merely a man who spoke out about injustice and tried to get his people to accept Roman rule and not engage in disastrous rebellions which finally got them kicked out of Judea.

But...there isn`t a Christian alive today who wouldn`t want Jesus dead...especially if they believe the fairy tale Hell their clergy uses over them..and therein is the secret as to why Christianity is the bloodiest scourge the world has ever seen..it is a religion based on murder..on a FIRST murder and it requires its folowers to join that pact...to approve the crime..and if you learn to accept the benefits that come from killing one innocent man..and they are as profound as everlasting life..why would you stop? Why not take the oily benefits that come fropm murdering innocent Iraqi children too? Why not take the benefits that comes from robbing people of their savings..like Enron and the Savings and Loan scandal? You people enshrine such despicable behavior..make a religion of it...it isn`t enough for you that people be good and decent..that won`t get them into heaven...they must agree to be blood criminals first and foremost...and we wonder why Christians are in a constant state of warfare...looking to see where they can "save" people and take the loot.



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