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Posted by pancho (Guest) - Wednesday, May 18 2005, 0:51:40 (CEST)
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...The Romans threw the Jews out of Jerusalem but even before that they had colonies and lived among everyone everywhere...but the ones tossed out probably had the greatest number of Christians among them...since Jesus was from Israel and so on and so forth. At this point nothing is clear...I agree with Paul that the Christians of the MidEast are more than likely nothing more than the descendants of those thrown out Jew/Christians and their numbers in the MidEast merely reflect the fact that they fucked each other primarily and so you have the few there ever were...never mind the 80 million more bullshit...who then had to all be massacreed by some nasty Muslims and THAT`S the reason their numbers don`t amount to spit today...nice try.

Did Assyrians convert to Christianity? I don`t know and neither does anyone else...but it`s likely some did. After their long run through history at the top of the game most of the time...some of the defeated and tired out Assyrians, who never had any idea about Messiahs and their god being angry and therefore "testing" or punishing them... felt their god was dead...not that the Christ god offered much except the dim hope that maybe they`d get another chance somewhere on a cloud...though Jesus never said that...the Messiah was coming to kick ass in THIS world not any other...anyway.

Christianity, a slave`s religion..or at the least one that had a lot of appeal to Jews who couldn`t take Rome`s yoke calmly...may have appealled to some Assyrians...but the rapidly multiplying sects, each with its Bishop and his thugs...cracking heads and cussing each other out..as you see them STILL doing..hardly inspired hordes to join up...what WAS inspiring was Islam and the way the Muslim armies kicked the shit out of the Byzantines who, among other murders, were hell bent on killing all heresies...and if not for Islam would have succeeded in wiping out OUR Nestorians and the rest of them...so thank Muhammad if you`re a boy...cause he insured your little sects in their mean and measely existence all those centuries when no one gave a good shit HOW many fingers Christ had....something the Eastern Romans were killing their OWN people over and were working their way down to kill you too!

So...caught between the nutty Christian/Jews...with the Romans menacing them from above...not only those still faithful to Ashur but Christians also welcomed the invading Muslims...and indeed the Muslims imposed a truce and told all the little sects to mind their own business and leave Christians alone to worship in peace.

Something was obviously enchanting about this new and vigorous religion...barely a few years old and already mowing down anything before its path...this was something Assyrians could relate to...quite diferent from the ducking and bowing and scraping they were supposed to do to a Jew god...though of course Allah is the same one all over again...but never mind that right now.

Good sense would dictate converting to the religion that defeated the other religion, Eastern Christianity, which was threantening to overrun Iraq and kill EVERY kind of Christian there was...the Muslims had no reason to kill Christians over fine distinctions in their religion whereas the Byzantines were ferociously dedicated to wiping out any Christian they didn`t approve of...common sense would tell you to line up with what appeared to be the winners and also the ones more accepting of these murderous variations for which more Christians killed other Christians than anyone ever cared to.

remember that...no one has killed more Christians than other Christians...so, who`s "attacking" Christianity???

The Assyrians who converted to Islam went on to create yet another high and powerful cutlure...one that almost conquered all of Europe but instead saved Spain..for a bit..and eventually cleaned up and educated all of Europe...and went on to the New World to spread Arab/Mesopotamian culture everywhere.

For 1300 years the Muslim Assyrians of Iraq have had a wild and wonderful ride through history...Baghdad was the greatest city of its day, bar none...and so on and so forth...there is no arguing that point nor accepting that desert Arabs did NOT have that sort of background...in the meantime, the boys were mightily pissed for their Jesus hadn`t done too well by them. They simply refused to join the dominant culture retreating to their caves and trees in villages where they nursed their grudges up till today.

That`s why they are so boyish...they are suffering from arrested development..they never managed to accept the obvious truth developing and growing all around them: that Assyria had morphed into the Khaliphate...something that still makes them gag...but that`s because they are so childish.

Muslim Assyrians gave up on the ancient language and adopted Arabic..as the boys and their children will give it up for English..as they are doing more and more. So? Will the children of Aprim..if he ever figures out what to do with his dick...who refuse to speak "Assyrian" not be considered Assyrian by their ditzy father? is that ALL it takes to be "Assyrian"?

Muslim Iraqis showed ACTIVE respect and dedication to the heritage by protecting it and uncovering it and displaying it..they are as proud as can be of ALL the ancient cultures which led up to the present..but they don`t live in the past and yearn for a return..to what? When were Assyrians EVER Christian...in the days that counted?

The boys have no "Assyrian culture"..they have a Christian culture...they traded away the possibility of having a culture and a home when they chose to dwell as only Christians and had nothing to do with Iraq...they chose to plant their foundations in the air..in a religion that has no home anywhere in the MidEast...hence there is no basis or foundation to them...they merely "float" in a Christian ether...and are lost everywhere in the world as a result..for they refuse to have anything to do with BetNahrain because a Jew lost out to an Arab.

Of course decsndants of the ancient `people of Mesopotamia exist today...you can see them all around us looking like they just walked off a museum wall relief. But they are Christian AND Muslim and many are neither. These Jew religions don`t MAKE you "Assyrian" nor do they bar you.

Muslim Assyrians don`t HAVE to talkalot or do anything else Christian boys tell them to. What they are doing instead is protecting their country and our heritage from yet more Christian attacks..and once again, as in their dismal recent and distant past...these Christian slimeballs are helping attack their own ancient homelands..the place they LOVE so much..like they LOVED Jesus to death.

That should answer the criticism that I say there are no Assyrians today..of course there are...and Chaldeans and Arameans and Yezidis and Hurrians and anyone else who existed back then..all of them have as much right to claim they exist...but those of them who became Muslim ALSO take great and justified pride in 1300 years of history since the advent of Islam, 1000 years since the old empire of Assyria fell.

When boys say they and only they are real Assyrians because they are CHRISTIAN..well, boys will be boys but you need to spank them when they are naughty...I don`t have to send them to their room though..they run there before I can get to them.

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