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Re: About our Assyrian identity

...you ain`t got none. You have a Christian religion you tried to build your airy castles on.

Written by wm warda Ben on 18 May 2005 07:29:54:

As an answer to: Re: About our Assyrian identity written by Bob Griffin on 18 May 2005 02:58:03:

Dear Bob:

It is hard to know why people like John Joseph will continue on their anti-Assyrian crusade.

...he isn`t anti-anything. He takes a disspassionate look at the issue while you`re all dressed in feather boas and screaming in a chorus line.

From what I understand he is a professor of Theology and as you said when people are brought up in believing something they continue to do so regardless of facts.

..people are not "brought up" as full university professors..unlike you boys who were all raised experts and historians but haven`t a JC degree between the lot of you. People have to STUDY in order to get there...they have to read REAL books..and they have to write REAL papers..that are subjected to review and informed and LEARNED critical analysis...something you never heard of without fainting dead away.

The Aramean identity is prized by the religiously driven people because according to the Old Testament Abraham the father of the jewish religion and by extension Christianity was an Aramean, (as we talked about it he could not have been!). Our own people always take pride in the fact that we speak the same language which Christ spoke which was Aramaic but in reality hey have historically called themseves Suryaye/Athuraye and their language they have called Suryaya and not Aramaya.

...how come all you PROWD "Assyrians" never say that Christ spoke the language of ASHURBANIPAL? Who is "religiously driven" you incomprable ass? Jews and Egyptians also used that language..by itself it means nothing...and all together YOU mean less.

The fact is many none Arameans spoke the Aramaic language, including the Assyrians, Christians of Egypt, Etuopians and even Christians of India.

..ah, thank you. And by the way and once and for all..the correct word is NON...when meaning "not belonging to something or believing or practising it" as in "non-violent"...the word you mistakenly use (like you get ANY right) means "not any"..as in: NONE, of any distinction, were found who believed Christians are NON-VIOLENT...which means NO ONE was found who believed Christians are NOT violent...kay? The clearer you are the better we`ll see your muddy bottom and the less you`ll all be able to hide behind your awful language skills. And also...there is no such word as "NOONE"...I know you are trying to write "NO ONE"---but you can`t combine them..like you can SOME ONE into SOMEONE...NO ONE does NOT become NOOOOOOOOONe!!!

Her is what the the "New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia" has to say about the Aramaic and the syriac language:

...Catholics don`t have encyclopedias..they have encyclicals. There is no such thing as a Catholic "intellectual" either...as there isn`t any Voodoo intellectual. To be either one sort of limits your intelligence at the start...and what`s left you can call anything you want..even grant a PhD in..but it`s bunk..all of it. Knowing EXACTLY how bubble gum is made does NOT make an engineer out of you.

"Syriac is the important branch of the group of Semitic languages known as Aramaic. In the time of Alexander the Great, Aramaic was the official language of all the nations from Asia Minor to Persia, from Armenia to Arabian Peninsula. It was divided into two dialects: the western, used in Palestine and Syria by the Jews, Palmyrans, and Nabateans; the eastern, spoken in Babylonia by the Jews, Mandeans, Manichaens, and the people of Upper Mesopotamia (notice how they refrain from using Assyrians). The Syriac language, as we know it from its literature, did not spring from the dialect spoken in Syria, but from the eastern Mesopotamian dialect."

If you notice in his books John Joseph does not mention any of the quotes I have listed even though I and others shared this information with him before the publication of his last book. He loves to quote other writers who believe in what he does instead of considering the fact that most of them do not seem to know that exist. Opinions not based on fact or reason are not worth the paper they are written on.

..no one can make it alive out of a graduate program quoting CATHOLIC "encyclopedias"..besides which the very basis of your attack is spurrious as you are guilty of the same thing you accuse him of..you too only bother with portions of books that back you up..you think!

This stuff makes fools of everyone who "believes" any of it.

...but the bottom line is that there isn`t a single recognized university that would have one you jackasses teaching in it...so I`m sure Joseph knows your "source"..and also knows it isn`t considered valid or concise in the academic world..a place you couldn`t begin to approach. Unless you want to print out an advanced degree along with your "book".

wm warda

..no amount of whales would do you any good.

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