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=> Aprim and his issue with Chaldeans

Aprim and his issue with Chaldeans
Posted by Rashad (Guest) - Saturday, March 24 2012, 21:03:14 (UTC)
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We have seen him state numerous times that there isn't a single document to prove modern Chaldeans have any links to those in antiquity and that's true. These Chaldeans come from north Iraq, which is were ancient Assyria once was, and that's true also. But where is the proof or the document to prove Aprim has any relations to the ancient Assyrians? Why can't he produce something he so desperately demands from Chaldeans? He is making this demand because he knows the Chaldean can't provide such prove, not that they really have to since they are not as absurd as the Assyrian fanatics. Aprim also can't produce such document because such thing doesn't exist. So what he uses as his evidence is location and the monuments, palaces and tablets that were discovered in his backyard, where there were Christians, Muslims, Jews and others.

This is the proof which Aprim relies on and expects it to be enough. When he says there is "tons" of evidence to prove the modern Assyrians are related to the ancients, he is talking about the things that were discovered, the location in which Nestorians live and he uses amateurs, missionaries and priests to prove it. If you deny his claims, which you can easily do with facts, he will throw the table upside down and make it look as if you're denying the ancients. I have seen him and other do exactly that. You deny them and they will ask "then who were those people who made those monuments if they weren't Assyrians" or they'll say "where did those discoveries come from if there weren't any Assyrians" but there is a huge and the most important point that is missed by these fucks, just as they miss the point about many other things, such as not necessarily denying jesus but not believing he is god nor a liar. They just can't comprehend certain things no matter how simple.

I will say it for the millionth time and will repeat it in the future. Nobody has denied there were a people called Assyrians in the ancient world and nobody has denied their location was in Iraq. The point is these Nestorians, who recently began claiming to be the descendants of the ancients, are making demands and lying. Aprim also assumes since the modern Chaldeans come from what was once Assyria, they must be Assyrian and can't be anything else. Everyone knows that only christians can be Assyrians and Chaldeans are Christians as well so they are Assyrians. The ancient Chaldeans and Babylonians vanished according to Aprim and then he goes on to say that the Mandeans are their descendants if there are any left. He ignores the millions of Arabs who live there and who regard themselves as Babylonians and are proud of that. He also ignores the millions of Muslims in northern Iraq who regard the ancient Assyrians as their ancestors, but only Christians have gone insane about it and completely lost it.

Nobody has denied the ancients and they are well respected by Iraqis and all of them, but the modern Assyrians are not exactly what they claim to be and this fraud originated from western Christians who because of certain agendas and prejudices decided to connect Middle East Christians with whatever ancient people once existed. In Egypt, we are told the Copts(christians) are the only descendants of pharaoh, and it is said they look "unique" and neither "arab" nor black" but of course they aren't that unique as they claim. What they mean to say is that the copts are white while the Muslims are Arabs and dark, and the blacks are just foreigners in Egypt. All that is bullshit of course as there are "Arabs" in Egypt who are white, yes, Muslims that are white, and then there are many that can't be told apart from Christians. In Lebanon, we are told the Christians are the true descendants of the Phonecians and we're told they were white people and so are the Christian Lebanese. This is bullshit as well and comes from racist Christians who apparently judge color by religion and a Muslim with blond hair and blue eyes is not white while a Christian with brown skin is white. There are Lebanese Muslims who are white and most Lebanese, Christian and Muslims are white or many are. How they come up with this is beyond me but it comes from Christians.

When the discoveries were made in Iraq, there weren't just Christians living in the are but Muslims and others, but it was the local Christians which gained the most interests by the Brits, the same people who would use them later. It was British who created the Assyrian nationalism and labeled the Nestorians with that name. It was the vatican which invented the modern Chaldeans and it was also Europeans who created the modern Assyrians. The same game was played and neither Aprim nor the Chaldeans can prove who they really are. They can call themselves whatever they wish, and they have been granted that, but they will not fool anyone nor receive any special treatment just because of their claims. Let Aprim produce a document he so challenges Chaldeans with. Let him do that since he has "plenty" of evidence. Let's see it and stop hiding. Come on you dick sucker, come and show me what's up. I have emailed you and you ignore me. You were on your knees giving a friend of mine head, and been running since. Let's see your document that proves you are Assyrian. We are waiting.



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