The Inside Assyria Discussion Forum #5
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- Friday, May 4 2012, 23:23:45 (UTC) from 124.187.180.118 - CPE-124-187-180-118.lns17.cht.bigpond.net.au  Australia -  Windows NT -   MozillaWebsite: Website title: |
Oh dear, oh dear. You really have some serious problems... You write more than 30 posts in a matter of a few days and expect a reply instantly? Do you really think I will read every one of them? Well, let me tell you, I am not as obsessed with what I think like you are with what you do. And I am most definitely very content with everything, including my thoughts... In other words, unlike you, every thought I have makes me feel good, including the thought of wasting time on the illogical interpretation that you come up with... And yes, how I feel is much more important than how you think... So, I’m going to enjoy a few minutes and say what I say then leave it to you and others to decide to respond or not. But I will definitely not be jumping on your site eager to see what you have to say... As I said to you before, I don’t lose sleep over anyone for disagreeing with me. And I definitely hope that you are the same. But, from what I have seen so far, you are definitely restless over it... And THAT is just great! Anyway, you Sir think you know it all and everyone else has got it all wrong... Do you now know why I said you’re a narcissist? You fit the definition PERFECTLY! You really do, and I am sure that others see that too... Pancho, Sir! For your own good, before you even start thinking about anything, you must first know the difference between facts, opinions and scientific evidence... You really need that desperately if you want to use your head the right way.. Please learn about what defines each of them... But most importantly, learn the role that INTERPRETATION plays in them all... And of course, why.... Why would 100 people look at something and interpret it in 100 different ways? And why is only ONE of them right and the others wrong? Why? Because you happen to agree with that ONE person? And you claim that only what that ONE person says is based on “facts”? Is this really the best you can do? You, Sir, have absolutely no idea about the fact that ANYTHING you or anybody else says, including me, is just an INTERPRETATION... There is NO FACT in any of the “facts” you present, anytime anywhere... You, Sir, have a very badly fragmented reasoning power.... And You, Sir, would be better off fixing your brain before you start even thinking about what you read here or in a book... So, I humbly suggest you go to www.mybrainismessedup.com and download Fixmyheadplease.exe ............... That will be a start for you, BUT I doubt it will... I am totally convinced that you have gone past the point of recovery... And my conviction is based on very obvious INTERPRETATION of the evidence of your thought pattern... Now, is my conviction based on fact? Of course not... it’s based on INTERPRETING your thoughts in accordance with world’s standard system... And do I care that my conviction is not based on fact? Of course not... But it’s still TRUE... You, a non-expert in anything, permit yourself to “refute” the Experts. But someone else who’s acknowledged as an expert by many experts is not allowed to do that?... Someone else has to always show you “evidence” from and expert that YOU must agree with before you allow them to say anything... Why? Is it because you’re so special that anything you say stands in the face of all experts? Yeah, sure... You managed to INTERPRET the work of a scientist and “refute” it without even thinking who you compared yourself to... But anyone else is not allowed to do the same to your “expert” unless they show your eminence a PhD and evidence from someone you agree with? For Austin power’s sake, what is wrong with you? You object to Sforza’s genetic analysis because he started his study with a group that you think are Christians and not Assyrians? What kind of INTERPRETATION you come up with? And what do you know about scientific testing methods in any field, let alone genetics? Sforza obviously had a DNA sample that he wanted to see if ANYONE today is linked to it. So, naturally, if the sample he had belonged to the Ancient Assyrians, he would have to seek SOMEONE he thought is from the same lineage, wouldn’t he? Isn’t that logical? Wouldn’t the most obvious choice be ANYONE he thought was the closest subjects for the test? Who does he test first? Someone like you who claims that he is not Assyrian or someone who says he is? Do you think Sforza thinks like you to waste time and money on someone who has an OBVIOUS low probability in the test’s success? Of course not... Anyone with even the weakest reasoning power would chose the obvious... And for Sforza, and others with any intelligence, the obvious choice would be those Assyrians who said they were from Ancient Assyria... And his choice happened to be the right one, wasn’t it? He was able to PROVE through genetic analysis that those he tested ARE as pure Assyrians as anyone can wish to be... But to you? It’s NOOO, Genetic Analysis can’t be true because those people are Christians... I mean, seriously? Is this how good you interpret scientific evidence? Where is the logic in your interpretation, here? How can you MISINTERPRET a statement like this?: The senior author, Prof. L.L. Cavalli-Sforza, Professor of Genetics at Stanford University, is considered one of the preeminent human population geneticists in the world, a field that he has been working in for over forty years. Or this: Analysis of the Assyrians shows that they have a distinct genetic profile that distinguishes their population from any other population. It is important to understand that this applies to the population as a whole, not to any one individual. You say that those people didn’t know about Assyrians until someone told them that 200 years ago? And they are Christians now so why test them? Seriously? What has that got to do with all the evidence in genetic analysis? Can’t you ever think normal? What has a lineage through BLOOD has to do with whatever name one calls himself? You seriously need help... You have logic that make the stomach of any intelligent man turn... You, Sir, are incredible! Think about this: A few years from now, someone lands on Mars and find traces of an ancient civilisation. He finds the name Annunaki on stones there and other writing that says some of them travelled to earth and settled in Sumer (Hypothetical? Yes. Possible? Of course! There are plenty evidence for it, so why not?)... Anyway, the discoverer then comes back from Mars and goes to Sumer... He finds that a group of people had lived there CONTINUOUSLY for thousands of years? Wouldn’t he assume that those are from the same blood as those Annunakis he discovered on Mars? Wouldn’t that be the first interpretation of any sane person? Then he goes to compare their language and culture to that of Mars people... He then finds that it is very similar... But he also finds that the only change is that which is related to the natural evolution that humans go through, in language and culture.... On top of that, when he tells those people that they are living on the land that Annunakis from Mars lived on, those people say, yeah, we are Annunakis... Then on top of all that, a scientist comes along and PROVES, through DNA analysis, that their blood is unique and different from any other people, and that it matches those on Mars... All that happens then YOU come along and say, Nooooo they can’t be because those people never heard the name Annunaki before..... And noooo, if it wasn’t for Zachariah Stichen, who wrote about them 50 years ago, or the man who discovered them on Mars, or Indiana Johns, those people would have never called themselves Annunakis..... In such a case, would you think your logic is sound? I know you’d say yes. But I hope that there really are readers here, as you claim... And by the way, to show you how impaired your logic is, you can NEVER know how many people read here... NEVER, unless THEY confirm it... And to INTERPRET a 2000 click, or a quick surf on your site as “evidence” that 2000 people read, is dead wrong... So, when you do your analysis next time, be intelligent enough to say you had 2000 CLICKS on your sites... Not even visitors, because you will NEVER know how many of those clicks are ACCIDENTAL.... So, get your INTERPRETATION right and use your words wisely... You always support your stance against Assyrians by saying that those who don’t agree with you are are not “historians”... You make it sound as if you are one, and that you are more “qualified” to talk about Assyrians than the professors in Assyriology and other experts... This, truly is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard from someone... As if you would reject any of them had they said what you want them to say... Who do you think you are? Okay, so we know now that you have good hands to make the statues, and the part of brain that controls them, but does that make the rest of your brain function properly? I guarantee you not.......... Go ask your favourite “expert” and find out... You have a very obvious low IQ and EQ and, NO, a positive blood test is not a guarantee of proper brain function... You just don’t realise that by showing off that your more intelligent than others even the EXPERTS, you are actually showing your lack of intelligence, to those who are intelligent... You do not realise that what you say in effect is that Martin Luther King must never talk about the history of African people because he is not a historian... You’re saying that Nelson Mandela must never talk about the history and politics in his country because he is not a politician or a historian... You are saying that Einstein should never talk about God because he is not a theologian... Well, they all did EXACTLY what you don’t approve of... The kind of world you like to see is that where everyone agrees with you and everyone bows to you... That is EXACTLY why you are a typical and a perfect fit for a Narcissist... But, thank goodness you are where you are making a lot of noise, and the world is where it is now and everyone is encouraged to just do it................ Had the world been like the one you see in your head, you would have NEVER had your forum... Thanks to Bill Gates, a person who NEVER got a university degree (like you demand him to have), you can now sit at home and annoy people who do not conform to your low standards of logical analysis and INTERPRETATION... What more?.................. You know what? I have never seen someone as desperate to say what he wants to say like you... You cannot discuss, argue or talk about anything, TO THE POINT, without distracting others towards things that WERE NEVER SAID.... You are just INCAPABLE of sticking to the point... You bring up things that you don’t like from your head, then you argue against them... This is a sign of schizophrenia... Something that you never though about, right? FYI, schizophrenia goes hand in hand with Narcissism... How could the best and ONLY Assyrian sculptor be so backward in his thinking? Ah well, there is a first to everything, and now we have it... I started all this by asking you a SIMPLE question...A VERY VERY SIMPLE question in a less than 10 word sentence... I asked you what you thought defines ethnicity... Not only you had 10 answers that each contradicted the other (a typical NO ANSWER, NO IDEA response from someone who has no clue), you were ignorant enough to say nothing about the most OBVIOUS answer to the question... Had you had ANY idea, you would have stuck with the STANDARD of those “scientists” you so much admire... You would have said LANGUAGE, CULTURE, GEOGRAPHY... But, of course, why would you say that knowing that it would comeback and bite you in the head... Also, had you been a little less ignorant than that, you would have said GENES... Because EVERYONE knows that THAT is the scientific standard today... But, as expected, you with your twisted logic was oblivious to that until I brought it up........... Your head definitely needs to be defragmented... You INSIST that I said things I NEVER said... You bring up things I had NEVER said or even thought about.... You insist that I said only Christians are Assyrians... Something I NEVER said, heard or even thought about from anyone but you.... You insist that I say Muslims or other people cannot be true Assyrians.... Again, something I NEVER said... You may not know this, but any intelligent person knows that when someone like you does that, it just means they are desperate to prove to themselves things they are obsessed with... People like that –YOU- always do that to steer clear away from the main point that they CANNOT talk about.... Only the silly people do that.............. Others, who know what they’re talking about ALWAYS stick to the point and never deviate from it... But not you... A very natural result of a head with no logical coherence in its argument.... You insist that Assyrians don’t exist because they didn’t know they were Assyrians until Layard told them... And to you, that is factual... So, using your logic, no one else can call themselves Assyrians unless Layard tells them they are...Well, to you disappointment, there are many people who haven’t even heard of Layard that KNOW themselves as being Assyrians in origin... And they didn’t learn that from Layard or me or you, they learnt that from their elders that passed the knowledge to them.... Who told Al-Jubooryeen that they are Ashureen? Did Layard tell them that they are called Juboor (forced) because someone forced them to convert? ... Did Layard tell the Barazanis that they are Assyrians of origin?... And other people.... Di you tell them to say that? Why don’t you ask their intellectuals and see what they tell you? In FACT many of them say and write about that today.... Oh, but you won’t accept that because no one is advertising it or written a book about it? Is that the best you can do? Really? Or they can’t be right because they were Christians? What in the world is wrong with you? Do you know that there were NO people called “Christians” until AFTER stupid Rome decided to INVENT that name, hundred of years later, just like they invented Nestorians? Do you know that Assyrians never called themselves Christians until every tom dick and harry decided it was a good name to use? Besides, why in the world would Assyrians be the FIRST to ACCEPT Christ’s teachings? Now pause a minute and INTERPRET “ACCEPT” correctly, and know that it DOES NOT mean CONVERT.... So, again, why is it that Assyrians were the FIRST to ACCEPT, not “convert” to Christ’s teachings? Do you want a hint from a “non-historian”? Nah... Stick to a historian’s interpretation and logic... Finally, I say this again in the hope that other readers, if any, will think about it: There are no facts in any science except Maths and, to a degree, Physics... All other sciences we have only INTERPRETATIONS. This, of course means that NO ONE can be 100% certain about what they know... And YES, NOT EVEN Mr. pancho, here... This fact is attested to by ALL intelligent scientists... Not a single one of them, in his right mind, will tell you that what they know is absolute... Everything we know is just an INTERPRETATION of what we think we see... Or more precisely, what we WISH to see... So, readers PLEASE, for your own sake, do not EVER think that what you know now is final and will never change... Someone had put that in a nice way to hammer the same point, and this is what he said: If you haven’t changed your mind for a long time, check your pulse, you could be DEAD... So, if there is any guarantee in life, it has to be this: Everything we know changes in time... And what we think is a “fact” today will be laughed at tomorrow... Hopefully, it will be us laughing at ourselves when we realize our wrong thinking... and not someone else who has become wiser than us while we stay in our rotted thoughts... Thanks to pancho, I found this link to the genetic analysis done on Assyrians. While I agree that even this is not a fact and 100% certainty, it is never the less the Best Interpretation of Evidence in the most advanced and accurate science today... Have a read... http://www.atour.com/health/docs/20000720a.html Pancho, lastly, I’m sorry I don’t have the time to check your forum, or any other, often, let alone get involved in useless and pointless discussions/arguments that make little difference to anything... You are free to Bla bla bla another 50 responses to this and say what you wish... However, I am not going to repeat myself. But I may cruise by every few weeks and re-post this post again so more of your "2000 readers” will have a chance to read it... And I'll do that because, for me, the threads in your forum are very complicated to follow, and I guarantee you there will be others like me who may not find this post easily the first time... and THAT is my INTERPRETATION... For those who want to insult me in private, here is an email address that is NOT mine: FareedYouhanna@bigpond.com But please don’t expect a reply... Have a great day! --------------------- |
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