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Hadeeths
Posted by AssyrianMuslim (Guest) - Sunday, April 13 2008, 23:13:16 (CEST)
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So Jumblat since you think you know hadeeths or you proved something with your propaganda which is very obvious that it's bull shit, I will post a few hadeeths below and you'll know what a hadeeth is.

Book 41, Number 4871:

Narrated Miqdam ibn Ma'dikarib ; AbuUmamah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: When a ruler seeks to make imputations against the people, he corrupts them.

Book 41, Number 4885:

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Avoid envy, for envy devours good deeds just as fire devours fuel or (he said) "grass."

Book 41, Number 4900:

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The believer is the believer's mirror, and the believer is the believer's brother who guards him against loss and protects him when he is absent.

Book 41, Number 4925:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Those who do not show mercy to our young ones and do not realise the right of our elders are not from us.

Book 41, Number 4949:

Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:

I said: Apostle of Allah! tell me if a son is born to me after your death, may I give him your name and your kunyah? He replied: Yes.

Book 41, Number 4957:

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: None of you must say: "My slave" (abdi) and "My slave-woman" (amati), and a slave must not say: "My lord" (rabbi or rabbati). The master (of a slave) should say: "My young man" (fataya) and "My young woman" (fatati), and a slave should say "My master" (sayyidi) and "My mistress" (sayyidati), for you are all (Allah's slave and the Lord is Allah, Most High.

Book 41, Number 4999:

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

When the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) finished the dawn prayer, he would ask: Did any of you have a dream last night? And he said: All that is left of Prophecy after me is a good vision.

Volume 3, Book 43, Number 622:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfill his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection . "

Volume 3, Book 43, Number 624:

Narrated Anas:

Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Apostle! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

Volume 3, Book 43, Number 627:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

The Prophet said, "Oppression will be a darkness on the Day of Resurrection."

Volume 3, Book 43, Number 654:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari:

The Prophet forbade robbery (taking away what belongs to others without their permission), and also forbade mutilation (or maiming) of bodies.

The above are just a few of the pleanty of authentic sayings of the prophet. One can see how they are numbered, and have a narrator to whom it can be traced back to. This science known as "science of the hadeeths" is something amazing that Imam Bukhari came up with along with his students. What jumblat is trying bring is a bunch of bullshit which he wants to believe are authentic Islamic sources.

So with all due respect Mr Jumblat, whenever you say you have proof, it is always nothing but your own opinion and your lifelong prejudices. And to support yourself more you have to bring links of people who comply with your mind. The above are just a few examples and anyone can see how they work. Also Mr Jumblat stated that Muslims view hadeeths as equal to Quran and that is another lie because no Muslims regard them as equal but as a second source. The Quran is not the word of Muhammad(pbuh) but what is to us the word of God. The hadeeths are the sayings and traditions of the prophet and they are kept in seperate books. They are not the same. So you were again dishonest just as you couldnt meet my simple demand about the verse from the Quran which say "Arabs' are the best or God's 'favorite" and all you can do is post links. What can be so damn hard about posting a verse on here and let people see? The answer is of course obvious and that is that you have nothing from Islamic sources but a bunch of propaganda. If you think they true, more power to you but others will be able to see for themseelves.

I agree with Minime in this regard. Just as there are Muslims who do bad things like terrorism, etc, there are Christians who blow up abortion clinics, kill gays and screw young boys from their congregation in the butt. There are black sheeps in all communities and one has to be able to put prejudices aside and be honest in studying the sources. I didn't embrace Islam because of what I heard on the news but it was due to being honest with myself and was willing to learn what is out there. After all, we all drop dead someday without notice and the purpose of life can not be what my desire tells me but there has to be a reason for all this and there has to be a purpose. Even a pair of shoes have a purpose and this entire creation has a purpose too.



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